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re: United CEO doubles down, calls passenger "belligerent", claims United followed rules
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:38 am to atxfan
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:38 am to atxfan
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The fact that the guy is a doctor shouldn't really be factored in unless he's performing a surgery the next day.
You think the only important thing doctors can do is perform surgery?
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:39 am to Golfer
I hope the First Class passengers weren't disturbed by seeing this slob drug out by his hair.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:39 am to Golfer
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Bording isn't final until the door is closed.
For the entire plane, that individual already boarded. I guess we will see who is right legally with this case.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:40 am to baldona
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I'd like to know what company protocol usually is if you have a flight crew needed in an emergency and there's no seats available? Explain how protocol is to kick paying customers off? What would they do if it was after the last flight available?
They decided to deal with inconveniencing 4 people vs. 70+ on Monday. It turned out to be a poor move.
If it happened after the last flight they would have delayed the Monday return until crew rest would be satisfied.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:40 am to Dam Guide
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I guess we will see who is right legally with this case.
You're off the reservation if you think United is going to kow-tow to Dr. Mao DumbDumb
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:41 am to ThatMakesSense
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You're off the reservation if you think United is going to kow-tow to Dr. Mao DumbDumb
Dr. DumbDumb has a very good case in court, if he pursues it, especially with a jury. It wouldn't be up to United.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:42 am to ThatMakesSense
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You're off the reservation if you think United is going to kow-tow to Dr. Mao DumbDumb
They might not, but it would've been the right financial move then. I guarantee you there's no way the bad publicity, lost revenue, and possible future boycott is better than finding someone else to boot off the plane.
It's not a good PR or financial move.
ETA: There's no way UAL wants this in front of the public in a court room or a jury. Only bad things can result.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:45 am to Dam Guide
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It wouldn't be up to United.
The defendant wouldn't be United.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:47 am to NYNolaguy1
UAL apparently gives zero fricks.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:47 am to ThatMakesSense
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The defendant wouldn't be United.
In a civil case, I'm sure United and the Chicago security would both be defendants. This dude would want to get paid if he chooses to go after them.
Who do you think he would go after in a civil case?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:48 am to Nuts4LSU
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The cops are not fricking emperors. Why should people have to do whatever they say, even if it's illegal for the cop to demand it? frick cops who think they are the rulers of the fricking world.
Why do you think it's illegal for cops to remove a passenger from a flight that the company does not want him on?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:49 am to Golfer
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They decided to deal with inconveniencing 4 people vs. 70+ on Monday. It turned out to be a poor move.
If it happened after the last flight they would have delayed the Monday return until crew rest would be satisfied.
Except that security had to get involved. It's fine to offer the vouchers and 'inconvenience' someone. But getting security involved to forcibly remove someone can't be the first step after $1000 voucher. Financially, that makes absolutely no sense. Delaying a whole plane is expensive as it most likely delays others too. But $4000 in vouchers and delaying a plane are no where close financially.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:51 am to NYNolaguy1
Oscar is a moron. And his memo is poorly-written.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:51 am to Choupique19
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Why do you think it's illegal for cops to remove a passenger from a flight that the company does not want him on?
Let's justify this legally. What crime has the passenger committed?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:51 am to Dam Guide
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Who do you think he would go after in a civil case?
Legally speaking, he would be wasting his time going after United. He may have something against the Chicago Aviation Security for excessive force, but I doubt that plays out well for him.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:51 am to baldona
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But getting security involved to forcibly remove someone can't be the first step after $1000 voucher.
It wasn't the first step. They asked him nicely 3 times before calling security
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:52 am to Bmath
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You think the only important thing doctors can do is perform surgery?
No, not at all. My wife's a doctor. I know that if she misses a day in clinic it will cause some disruption but it isn't the same as if she has a surgery scheduled for someone with cancer. Do you know what type of practice this guy runs?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:53 am to NYNolaguy1
Trespassing
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:54 am to atxfan
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The fact that the guy is a doctor shouldn't really be factored in unless he's performing a surgery the next day. If he's some quack who runs a clinic writing prescriptions for opiates then I don't see how he's any more of a priority. The more I see of this guy, the more I understand exactly how it came to the point hat he did. That's someone who could use a good tazing.
Even if he's preforming surgery I'm sure Louisville has other doctors.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:55 am to baldona
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ut $4000 in vouchers and delaying a plane are no where close financially.
United's stock has lost $600 million due to the incident.
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