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re: United 23 - fifth plane on 9/11? (Beware, long read)

Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by Mor Miles
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:19 pm to
I’ve long wondered if flight 93 wasn’t shot down into that field before it could hit the White House, and that they sold us the story of the heros who crashed it because it was easier for us to stomach than the grim reality of our own government shooting passenger airplanes out of the sky.

Not saying that wouldn’t have been the right call if true.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:24 pm to
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I’ve long wondered if flight 93 wasn’t shot down into that field before it could hit the White House, and that they sold us the story of the heros who crashed it because it was easier for us to stomach than the grim reality of our own government shooting passenger airplanes out of the sky.

Not saying that wouldn’t have been the right call if true.


Believe I've read that Cheney gave the okay to shoot it down however we didn't have any armed planes nearby or something.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:24 pm to
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Still amazing. How a guy who could barely fly a cesna. Managed to do a corkscrew descending turn. And hit the pentagon dead level.

It was a 757 and the hijacker was a commercial pilot
Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
907 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:25 pm to
Yes. A pilot who could barely fly. According to his flight instructor.



LINK



This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 10:31 pm
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RIP Wayde
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:25 pm to
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United Airlines captain Tom Manello


Enjoyed his work with Rage against the Machine
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:27 pm to
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the missile that hit the pentagon, the lack of plane parts at the pentagon or in the field
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:48 pm to
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The Boat



Will you teach us all about 9/11?

You sound very knowledgeable.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:50 pm to
My youtube algorithm is all fishing and 9/11
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:54 pm to
Mine is golf and science.

Let me know if y'all need to know what's up about space time and shite.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:56 pm to
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Believe I've read that Cheney gave the okay to shoot it down however we didn't have any armed planes nearby or something


In bush’s book he mentioned giving the order to Andy Card.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67321 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:57 pm to
I've been very interested in the early 2000's historically lately, I'm 30 so I still remember a lot of the events but was a kid so I didn't soak a lot of it in.

Was a very interesting time with the 2000 presidential election, 9/11, War on Terror, Katrina, the financial crisis, rise of the smartphone, etc
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:58 pm to
Stoped reading at jet fuel
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:03 pm to
Sounds reasonable even likely.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:05 pm to
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9/11 always gives me the creeps. It's all so creepy.


With you there partner.

I want to know everything. But in some ways, maybe I don’t want to know.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:07 pm to
I remember the documentary and it was unconvincing to say the least

I don't remember in detail but the documentary didn't even have eye witness testimony of certain sketchy events just people repeating what they were told by other people some of which also were just repeating what others had told them
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67321 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:09 pm to
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I remember the documentary and it was unconvincing to say the least

I don't remember in detail but the documentary didn't even have eye witness testimony of certain sketchy events just people repeating what they were told by other people some of which also were just repeating what others had told them


This documentary was mostly based on the actual flight crew themselves.

They had the pilot, two flight attendants, and the purser tell their stories. The copilot has died but was very outspoken about this as well.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:08 am to
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That doesn’t explain the towers’ collapse, the missile that hit the pentagon, the lack of plane parts at the pentagon or in the field, the charges detonating in the towers and the charges detonated later that afternoon bringing down another building, I could go on for a while. Who owns TMZ?


I love it when people go the whole "they weren't all planes" route

That would mean they had the ability to use actual planes on the WTC but for whatever reason chose not to for the other two (or just pentagon) for some bizarre reason opening themselves up to the massive possibility of the whole thing getting exposed

How would you explain that? We the planes that hit the WTC not real? What about the aircraft parts found at the pentagon?
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15063 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:13 am to
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That doesn’t explain the towers’ collapse, the missile that hit the pentagon, the lack of plane parts at the pentagon or in the field, the charges detonating in the towers and the charges detonated later that afternoon bringing down another building, I could go on for a while. Who owns TMZ?


You have dishonored yourself. Cut that shite out.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:27 am to
Couldn’t someone subpoena the FBI files from this? Or did they try and met with “sorry, confidential until 2090”?

Had never heard of this theory. Very interesting. Wonder if anyone from Madellos flight was arrested after the fact.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15063 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:35 am to
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I’ve long wondered if flight 93 wasn’t shot down into that field


Shot down.. like with an air to air missile? That would have scattered aircraft and small missile parts over a large area, even if most of the plane went down largely intact. No witnesses of smoke in the sky. No witnesses of anything, whatsoever. Good weather too.
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