re: Union Trouble Brewing for Starbucks

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If you want automation asap then this is the way to go.

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From the employee perspective, merit is far better than union,

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Evertything has become systemized and with AI improving it will become the norm.

Unless you have some rare skill, you can be pretty easily replaced.

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We live in a plug and play society, everything is systemized. Its time to move toward automation and remove some human element.

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i'm glad your aptitude at younger ages don't limit your ceiling.

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Its still the land of opportunity. Poor people can get degrees online using Pel Grants. There is absolutely no excuse for not upgrading education or skill.

Starbucks must not have high standards, the girls who work the seasonal restaurants make $500 plus a day, with only a min. wage base.

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Ok then, so what is your stance regarding the possible unionization of these Starbucks stores?

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the only thing i'm arguing is $20/hour isn't that insane of a starting point in negotiations.
at least not in the vast majority of areas where Starbucks are located. refer to my first post in this thread.

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Starbucks has a partnership with Arizona State University online. That’s a $50K+ degree for those who wish to pursue higher education, paid for by Starbucks. A barista at Starbucks could obtain necessary skills from that program to enter the white collar world for those willing to do so.

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Its still the land of opportunity. Poor people can get degrees online using Pel Grants. There is absolutely no excuse for not upgrading education or skill.

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other than personal limits, yes.

i alway point to lebron james because we're about the same age.


i came from a stable 2 family household. solid a+ student, decent athlete, good extracurriculars. put myself through college, no debt, married to one woman and two kids.

Lebron:

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James was born on December 30, 1984, in Akron, Ohio, to Gloria Marie James, who was 16 at the time of his birth.[14]:?22? His father, Anthony McClelland, has an extensive criminal record and was not involved in his life.[15][16][17] When James was growing up, life was often a struggle for the family, as they moved from apartment to apartment in the seedier neighborhoods of Akron while Gloria struggled to find steady work.[18] Realizing that her son would be better off in a more stable family environment, Gloria allowed him to move in with the family of Frank Walker, a local youth football coach who introduced James to basketball when he was nine years old.[14]:?23

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there's no world where he should be making my yearly salary every two games based on our starting points, or even where we were when we were both 10 years old. despite any racial overtones in the US, everybody knows his kids will be better off than my 2 kids (about the same age,) and rightfully so because he's worked for it.

Lebron, as much as I don't care for him, has a marketable skill and has done everything he can to make a great life for his kids and set them up for future success. nobody in their right mind is going to compare the two of us and think my kids have any advantage or privilege over his children.

that's because of meritocracy and capitalism in our land of opportunity.

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Starbucks has a partnership with Arizona State University online. That’s a $50K+ degree for those who wish to pursue higher education, paid for by Starbucks. A barista at Starbucks could obtain necessary skills from that program to enter the white collar world for those willing to do so.

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The road to self actualization is a solo job, too many people feel entitled and never grow.

Its 100% on the employee to find a path to make a "livable wage." Begging, whining, demanding is the wrong way.

I used to hire Bulgarian J-1 students for summer work. They'd come and work two jobs, and take home to Bulgaria more than the average adult made in a year over there.

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Problem is they're doing both.

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Link?

In a world where craft coffee is popping up everywhere, increasing their prices would kill them.

Good.