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re: Ukraine use American weapons to kill civilians at a beach

Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Go live in Guatemala. They've never done this.


I’m literally in Guatemala right now
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
907 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:34 pm to
I'm sure a scholar like yourself knows about the 1991 elections, right? When Ukraine voted to be independent from the USSR?

LINK

A referendum on the Act of Declaration of Independence was held in Ukraine on 1 December 1991.[1] An overwhelming majority of 92% of voters approved the declaration of independence made by the Verkhovna Rada on 24 August 1991.

Voters were asked "Do you support the Act of Declaration of Independence of Ukraine?" The text of the Declaration was included as a preamble to the question. The referendum was called by the Parliament of Ukraine to confirm the Act of Independence, which was adopted by the Parliament on 24 August 1991. Citizens of Ukraine expressed overwhelming support for independence. In the referendum, 31,891,742 registered voters (or 84.18% of the electorate) took part, and among them 28,804,071 (or 92.3%) voted "Yes".


Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:38 pm to
Get the frick out of Ukraine or die, Russians.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21127 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:42 pm to
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You are a POS

You're low T and exchanging letters with an 8 year old
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:45 pm to
So what Russia is doing is ok?????
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66097 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:48 pm to
People that ignore Ukraines blatant corruption astound me.

Not that we are any better. But all sides of this bs are full of shite.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36098 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:52 pm to
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I’m literally in Guatemala right now



Where? I stayed in Santa Apolonia in 2015

quote:

People that ignore Ukraines blatant corruption astound me.

Not that we are any better. But all sides of this bs are full of shite.


It's a farce, all of it.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:58 pm to
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Where? I stayed in Santa Apolonia in 2015


Antigua just on vacation it’s a beautiful city
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:58 pm to
The question was would you like to dissolve the USSR, no one was asked what country they would like to be in, it wasn’t on the ballot. If they had asked, Ukraine would have lost the Donbas and Crimea at a minimum.
Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
907 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:00 pm to
The question was ''Do you support the Act of Declaration of Independence of Ukraine''?



Stop lying, lmao.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:02 pm to
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Russia brought this war upon themselves.


Its our war, slick.

We're too fricking pussy to send men though. So we just send money that we borrow.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32881 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:04 pm to
Raoul, when are you going to update the OP with the MoD’s statement that Ukraine didn’t actually attack the beach, and that ordinance fired at a legitimate military site was destroyed by Russia over said beach, causing these casualties?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37783 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Raoul, when are you going to update the OP with the MoD’s statement that Ukraine didn’t actually attack the beach, and that ordinance fired at a legitimate military site was destroyed by Russia over said beach, causing these casualties?




Wait.


LordBebo might not be the most trustworthy information?



Mind.



Blown.


Doesn’t stop the America haters on here though
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36098 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:22 pm to
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Antigua just on vacation it’s a beautiful city


Visited there for a day while we stayed in Guatemala, it is a beautiful city. We also took a trip to the volcano lake, name is escaping me right now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:24 pm to
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Not that we are any better. But all sides of this bs are full of shite.


It's a farce, all of it.


Its funny to watch. We control the marionettes. Another nation building effort on our part.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5346 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:26 pm to
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Trump might not have liked it, but I don’t see how he would have stopped it.


I think the point is the invasion never would have happened if Trump was President for a variety of reasons. I'm not saying the Russians were intimidated by Trump, but rather they saw him as a populist dealmaker with pacifist/isolationist tendencies who was willing to maintain the geopolitical status quo in favor of stroking his ego at some trailer park rally.

You can't predict an alternate future, but it's not a coincidence that after years of relative tranquility during the Trump administration, the saber rattling and mobilization efforts went into warp speed following the installment of Biden and his handlers. And instead of trying to diffuse the situation, we basically doubled down and insulted them and dared them to cross the red line as if we were calling a bluff.

The bottom line is Russia is Russia and Putin is a maniacal a-hole but on some level you have to admit that this was also a failure of US policy and diplomacy. There's a difference between being pro-Russia and being pro-smart when dealing with Russia.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:26 pm to
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The question was would you like to dissolve the USSR, no one was asked what country they would like to be in,
Your statement is not accurate.

The ballot question was “Do you support the Rada’s resolution that Ukraine declares its independence from the USSR?”

So the real issue was independence or not independence.

Independence won overwhelmingly in all oblasts (sort of like counties) including Crimea although there was only a 37% voter turnout in Crimea and the “yes” vote there was only 54%.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11217 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:31 pm to
Cool, so not a damn thing about Ukraine bombing their own people for 7 years prior to the invasion?
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:33 pm to
Ukraine also say they have a 95% interception but also desperate need 130 patriot systems
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
4267 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:34 pm to
Who cares whether it was cash or weapons? If weapons that just means the taxpayers will be paying to replace the weapons. It all comes from the taxpayer.

Why don't you drop everything you're doing and go join the Ukraine army? While you're over there please remind Germany and Poland this is their war to be fighting with Ukraine, not ours.
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