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re: U2 view of the Chinese "Weather" Balloon

Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:32 pm to

This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:52 pm to
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So instead of just launching a satellite they thought it better to attach one to a balloon?

It worked perfectly for them


Weird conclusion.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 1:28 pm to
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I'd beat that there is a newer airframe that is also operational.

Man, I just read some stuff on Lockheed's website about the U-2/U-2S (had no idea we had a variant either) that says we maintain and operate a fleet of 31 U-2's. I figured we had maybe 5-10 since it was such a specialized platform. But they have been continuously upgrading the thing for 65 years or so now and have made it a high tech, high altitude AWACS sort of with all the sensor packages and communications upgrades they've done to the plane.

It can deliver reali-time data to 5th generation fighters, other support aircraft, ground troops, and maritime assets simultaneously.

It just really caught me by surprise that we still operate such a big fleet considering the mission-specific quality it was developed as. I will say that one thing our military does get right is adjusting the roles of some of the older aircraft like the A10, B52, AC130 etc. They were all built with specific missions in mind and have been adapted well beyond their planned service length and upgraded for modern objectives.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 1:48 pm to
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could be wrong but I think it’s the CIA that operates the U2.




I'm not sure about the CIA operating U-2s because, you know, they're the CIA and they do a lot of secret squirrel stuff. However, NASA was operating U-2s out of Patrick AFB for weather surveillance during the space shuttle era.

A couple of fraternity brothers and I roadtripped to KSC to watch a shuttle launch. After the launch, we ended up on the beach by Patrick AFB, thinking we'd see lots of jets. The only thing I remember landing was a white U-2 with a NASA insignia on the tail. (Alcohol and 30 something years involved...) It was WAY cool!
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 1:54 pm to
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we maintain and operate a fleet of 31 U-2's. I figured we had maybe 5-10 since it was such a specialized platform


I think there are two things at play here.

1. You want a couple backups in case the chinese or russians ever figure out how to shoot one down again. You'd hate to see those 5 disappear and they sure don't make them anymore.

2. The support costs are probably the same if there are 10 or 30. There are probably some specialized parts that Lockhood, Honeywell, GE, or some other defense contractor has to make and they probably request a bulk purchase of "100 widgets" or whatever to make it financially viable to product such widgets. You have setup and shipping charges that probably don't change if you buy tires or taillights for 10 planes or 30 planes.
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 2:00 pm to
U-2s Dragonlady has a huge radome thingy on it with an assortment of new fangled Elint features to spy on or jam enemy assets. If that picture is real?? It is not an s model.
Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 3:53 pm to
The U2 is basically a modular platform for different missions. Absolutely amazing aircraft the Soviets tried to copy and couldn't.
Posted by reveille
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 4:08 pm to
tadman, you are correct NASA still has them. Designated the WB-57 still fly out of Ellington field in Houston. Crazy seeing it in the hanger, they have special stands to hold the wings up while it is on the ground

NASA WB-57

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