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re: Two Reporters Killed in Shooting During Live Broadcast in Virginia
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:52 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:52 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:I'm sure he was influenced by a variety of different factors. He pulled the trigger and no one else.
You think those thoughts just magically got in his head all by themselves?
Many on this board promote the idea of taking personal responsibility for getting out of poverty or the justice system and positively contributing to society. Any claims that an individual had an unequal chance to emerge successfully because of an oppressive society are dismissed categorically as excuses from a person not wanting to accept that responsibility.
Yet, this pyscho buys a gun, shoots two innocent people, tweets a bit about racism and social injustice, and suddenly it's the MSM's or Obama's fault for discussing racial issues in a clandestine attempt to oppress white people and incite a race war. Can't just be Williams' responsibility.
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:53 pm to semotruman
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But it's a bit of a leap from hateful rhetoric to planning and committing cold-blooded murder. That takes someone with a screw loose.
He was crazy. If it wasn't this excuse it would be another. Also supposedly in the manifesto he says that Jehovah told him to do it. Again, he was clearly crazy.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:53 pm to MetArl15
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Many on this board promote the idea of taking personal responsibility for getting out of poverty or the justice system and positively
You can take personal responsibility for yourself while still acknowledging outside influences on a situation.
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Yet, this pyscho buys a gun, shoots two innocent people, tweets a bit about racism and social injustice, and suddenly it's the MSM's or Obama's fault for discussing racial issues in a clandestine attempt to oppress white people and incite a race war.
I'm not saying that at all, and I'm fairly certain you know that.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:55 pm to LordSaintly
quote:That's the one that makes no sense. Those guys deliberately chose Hitler's birthday as the day of their attack.
The ABC report also says the writer expressed admiration towards the Columbine High School shooters
They didn't like black people
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:55 pm to MetArl15
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Yet, this pyscho buys a gun, shoots two innocent people, tweets a bit about racism and social injustice, and suddenly it's the MSM's or Obama's fault for discussing racial issues in a clandestine attempt to oppress white people and incite a race war. Can't just be Williams' responsibility.
Whenever there is a tragedy, people seek a way to make it make sense. They look for someone or something to blame, some way to justify or frame the actions in a way that is rational and makes sense in their world. Pure coping mechanism.
Sometimes, the world is just a fricked up place, full of fricked up people who are crazy or just evil. Sometimes, things just don't make any sense.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:56 pm to baybeefeetz
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You don't think he researched this a lot, do you?
I guess not. What an idiot.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:56 pm to MetArl15
Have the media found any of this dickwad's family?
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:56 pm to TutHillTiger
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Damn I knew some news crews will do anything for ratings but wtf? Sorry in bad taste but disgruntled worker kills former employees with a gun is so fricking common now almost non news event
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:57 pm to MetArl15
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Yet, this pyscho buys a gun, shoots two innocent people, tweets a bit about racism and social injustice, and suddenly it's the MSM's or Obama's fault for discussing racial issues in a clandestine attempt to oppress white people and incite a race war. Can't just be Williams' responsibility.
Look at it from the other side for a moment. Let's say there was a prominent "white leader" (if there was such a thing) calling on 10,000 whites to "rise up and kill those who kill us; stalk them and kill them and let them feel the pain of death that we are feeling". When one day a white guy goes out and does just that after leaving a manifesto stating he was motivated to kill because of race. How would that be interpreted?
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:57 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:It was hyperbolic, I admit that, and while I responded to you, I shouldn't have implied that you necessarily believe that.
I'm not saying that at all, and I'm fairly certain you know that.
I just find it more dangerous than illuminating to suggest outside influences had any real influence here. I'm sure he was influenced, as are we all, by what he read and heard. He pulled the trigger while you and I did not and never would. The distinction is obvious and essential.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:58 pm to MetArl15
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Can't just be Williams' responsibility.
It is his responsibility 100%. You can also point the finger at the current administration and the social tones throughout society in regards for total lack of concern about black on white crimes when they treat white on black crime like it's the fricking Apocalypse.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:58 pm to TutHillTiger
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This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:58 pm to LordSaintly
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They didn't like black people.
I don't think they liked anyone, but it does seem weird that he mentioned them in a positive light.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:59 pm to TutHillTiger
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:59 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Some of these posters need to get their arse back in the poliboard...
There's been a significant upturn in it the past year. What's your explanation for it? Is it just a coincidence? Or could it be psychopaths like this get pissed off at the world or a specific group, don't give a frick if they live or die, and then decide to go out in a blaze of glory all to prove a point and become infamous? I think from a psychopath's POV, this makes sense.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 3:00 pm to Darth_Vader
I just read his discrimination lawsuit. One thing I'm not sure about is why he sued under section 1981 and not Title VII.
Also, notice how the complaint alleges that a "producer" called him a monkey, but he doesn't identify the producer. That's always fun.
Weak arse lawsuit.
Also, notice how the complaint alleges that a "producer" called him a monkey, but he doesn't identify the producer. That's always fun.
Weak arse lawsuit.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 3:00 pm to TutHillTiger
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ws crews will do anything for ratings but wtf? Sorry in bad taste but disgruntled worker kills former employees with a gun is so fricking common now almost non news event
WTF?
How often do you think this happens? And how often is it caught on video? And done for expressed racial reasons?
Posted on 8/26/15 at 3:00 pm to MetArl15
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I just find it more dangerous than illuminating to suggest outside influences had any real influence here.
Why is it dangerous? Look at the riots for justified killings based off sensationalized media. That is actually dangerous and harmful to our society, and it's real. It's not some imaginary boogeyman. People do bad things, and sometimes it's because they are influenced by sensationalized bullshite.
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He pulled the trigger while you and I did not and never would. The distinction is obvious and essential.
No one's saying he didn't do that on his own. But you have to acknowledge the conditions that got him to that point. And just saying he's crazy isn't enough IMO.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 3:02 pm to baybeefeetz
LINK
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“My grief is unbearable,” said her father, a banking industry recruiter from Martinsville, Va. “Is this real? Am I going to wake up? I am crying my eyes out. I don’t know if there’s anybody in this world or another father who could be more proud of their daughter.”
“It’s like showing those beheadings,” he said. “I am not going to watch it. I can’t watch it. I can’t watch any news. All it would do is rip out my heart further than it already it is.”
Posted on 8/26/15 at 3:02 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:Certainly differently, but no more correctly.
Look at it from the other side for a moment. Let's say there was a prominent "white leader" (if there was such a thing) calling on 10,000 whites to "rise up and kill those who kill us; stalk them and kill them and let them feel the pain of death that we are feeling". When one day a white guy goes out and does just that after leaving a manifesto stating he was motivated to kill because of race. How would that be interpreted?
I disagree entirely with flying the confederate flag and believe it should not fly in public spaces. I also believe that flag flyers, while misguided and completely antithetical to my beliefs, had nothing to do with Ted Roof's escapade nor his overall insanity.
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