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re: Two adults, one child found dead after hunting accident
Posted on 1/30/18 at 7:28 am to djangochained
Posted on 1/30/18 at 7:28 am to djangochained
I, like many on here I’m sure, have also had the underwater egress training. It’s bad enough when you are in a warm swimming pool, with people giving you instructions just minutes before, in a swimsuit, in daylight, and knowing that the chopper is about to flip. I can’t imagine having it happen in cold weather, wearing hunting clothes, probably holding a gun and a bag, and unexpectedly in the dark.
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:18 pm to BowDownToLSU
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:36 pm to Iron Lion
2 things to add.
First, a buddy of mine was hired by a firm that performed audits on site on Gulf rigs. They were transported back and forth by helicopter. Before he could start, there was mandatory emergency training in which they had to evacuate a similated crash landing in the gulf.
They were strapped into a helicopter, turned upside down, and completely submerged in a big pool. This was after a day and a half of training. They started with dry runs, over and over again, first sitting upright on dry land, then progressing to chest deep water, then submerged with scuba gear, and so on.
Even with rescue divers within arms reach in a warm pool, he said it was pretty terrifying. And even after a day of step-wise progression in preparation, it still took a half a dozen tries for all for people that were strapped in to complete the evacuation together.
This water was 49 degrees, dark, and it obviously occurred by surprise. Add in the hunting gear and the setup of those floating blinds, and its amazing 1 person survived.
First, a buddy of mine was hired by a firm that performed audits on site on Gulf rigs. They were transported back and forth by helicopter. Before he could start, there was mandatory emergency training in which they had to evacuate a similated crash landing in the gulf.
They were strapped into a helicopter, turned upside down, and completely submerged in a big pool. This was after a day and a half of training. They started with dry runs, over and over again, first sitting upright on dry land, then progressing to chest deep water, then submerged with scuba gear, and so on.
Even with rescue divers within arms reach in a warm pool, he said it was pretty terrifying. And even after a day of step-wise progression in preparation, it still took a half a dozen tries for all for people that were strapped in to complete the evacuation together.
This water was 49 degrees, dark, and it obviously occurred by surprise. Add in the hunting gear and the setup of those floating blinds, and its amazing 1 person survived.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:40 pm to Iron Lion
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What a terrible way to die
The second thing, if it's any consolation to friends of the family reading, is that while, yes, this was an awful tragedy, drowning in cold water is one of the least horrible ways to die.
The cold water shock causes you to go numb almost instantly, so there's very little pain. Then you pass out almost as soon as you inhale.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:07 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Man, the visitation was rough.
Darrin was dressed in workout gear: OPEX shirt, wrist wraps, etc like he was about to hit the gym.
Madeline and her son Joseph were in the same casket holding each other in their arms.
They had been hunting on this same blind for years and were caught completely by surprise.
Darrin was dressed in workout gear: OPEX shirt, wrist wraps, etc like he was about to hit the gym.
Madeline and her son Joseph were in the same casket holding each other in their arms.
They had been hunting on this same blind for years and were caught completely by surprise.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:29 pm to LSUAlum2001
that's rough...sorry man
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:34 pm to LSUAngelHere
that's tough to hear
Posted on 2/2/18 at 10:42 pm to SOLA
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I, like many on here I’m sure, have also had the underwater egress training. It’s bad enough when you are in a warm swimming pool, with people giving you instructions just minutes before, in a swimsuit, in daylight, and knowing that the chopper is about to flip. I can’t imagine having it happen in cold weather, wearing hunting clothes, probably holding a gun and a bag, and unexpectedly in the dark.
Unexpectedly and in the dark
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:11 pm to SOLA
As a teenager, a buddy I decided to crawl some geese, but had to swim across a bayou to get there. The temperature was in the low 40s.
When you submerse yourself in water that cold, the first thing that happens is your lungs heave, so you are stunned with an uncontrollable deep breath, and breathing in and out is physically difficult. You have to force each breath in and out.
Like the description in the move Titanic, the water feels like thousands of needles stabbing every cell of your body with numbness. Your entire self gets stiff immediately, and moving your arms and legs gets more difficult because your blood flow is shutting down and you lose the sensation of touch.
It's an awful feeling, and you can tell that you only have a couple of minutes in that kind of situation to live. I could totally see how being dumped upside down unexpectedly into that would leave someone disoriented and unable to get out of an otherwise escapable situation.
Tragic story.
When you submerse yourself in water that cold, the first thing that happens is your lungs heave, so you are stunned with an uncontrollable deep breath, and breathing in and out is physically difficult. You have to force each breath in and out.
Like the description in the move Titanic, the water feels like thousands of needles stabbing every cell of your body with numbness. Your entire self gets stiff immediately, and moving your arms and legs gets more difficult because your blood flow is shutting down and you lose the sensation of touch.
It's an awful feeling, and you can tell that you only have a couple of minutes in that kind of situation to live. I could totally see how being dumped upside down unexpectedly into that would leave someone disoriented and unable to get out of an otherwise escapable situation.
Tragic story.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:20 pm to LSUgusto
A trap door or sliding panel in the floor of that thing may have made the difference.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:23 am to Jim Rockford
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A trap door or sliding panel in the floor of that thing may have made the difference.
I used to think that but now since understanding the conditions I'm not sure it would've helped.
Dark+cold muddy water and being tossed upside down is just a terrible place to gain your bearings and think clearly. they likely didn't even know which way was up.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:05 am to LSUAlum2001
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Madeline and her son Joseph were in the same casket holding each other in their arms
This got me choked up. I can’t imagine
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:11 am to LSUAlum2001
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Madeline and her son Joseph were in the same casket holding each other in their arms
omg thats rough..
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