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re: Turkey begins invasion of Kurdish held northeast Syria
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:48 am to Centinel
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:48 am to Centinel
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So let me make sure I get it correct:
If Trump doesn't bring troops home, he's just a war-crazed dictator that doesn't care about the troops.
If he does bring troops home, he's a dictator that abandons his allies and it's only 50 troops so it doesn't even really matter.
Yeah you didn’t “get it correct” at all. Are you just arguing with yourself here or something?
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:54 am to CitizenK
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4. The PKK is the major smuggler of dope from Afghanistan.
This gonna need citation, you know since iran is literally right next door and before you get to iraq and then syria.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:17 am to lsu2006
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Are you just arguing with yourself here or something?
No, just summing up the general attitude of the tards in this thread who think no matter what Trump does, it's bad.
Keep the troops: bad
Remove the troops: also bad
Because Trump.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:23 am to Centinel
The poli board is strong in you, my man.
My opinion is essentially this - At best this move is fairly neutral but mostly a positive for the US and doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. At worst we've left a long-time ally out to dry in a time of need and have made yet another move in a long line of moves going back the last century to further de-stabilize the region. The reality of the situation, as often is the case, is probably somewhere between those two options. But I won't pretend to have some kind of intimate expert knowledge on the situation or what it means for the future of the region or how things will shake out from here.
Anyways, have fun raging against the liberal boogie men. You'll get them yet.
My opinion is essentially this - At best this move is fairly neutral but mostly a positive for the US and doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. At worst we've left a long-time ally out to dry in a time of need and have made yet another move in a long line of moves going back the last century to further de-stabilize the region. The reality of the situation, as often is the case, is probably somewhere between those two options. But I won't pretend to have some kind of intimate expert knowledge on the situation or what it means for the future of the region or how things will shake out from here.
Anyways, have fun raging against the liberal boogie men. You'll get them yet.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:24 am to NIH
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Our allies in that part of the world are our enemies tomorrow.
The Kurds have been our allies there for over 50 years though.
But this also isn't the first time we've abandoned them, so it's not entirely unprecedented. Though this decision seems extremely short-sighted, and if reports are true that it was a rash decision after talking with Edrogan it raises more suspicion.
I think there is absolutely an argument for us to greatly reduce our military presence in the Middle East. This move doesn't really accomplish that though. These troops were merely providing background assistance to the Kurds while the Kurds were on the battlefield. We've all but abandoned a prison holding thousands of former ISIS fighters who will likely be freed, if they haven't already.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:28 am to lsu2006
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The poli board is strong in you, my man.
Not really. I piss off the trumpkins just as much as I do the proggies.
It just happens that this thread (and forum in general) has a rather large population of people who suffer from a serious case of TDS.
Just like the poliboard has a large population of people that suffered from ODS.
When I see knee jerk emotional responses, I point them out.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:30 am to Centinel
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When I see knee jerk emotional responses, I point them out.
OK. I didn't think my response was really all that knee jerk or emotional. A bit pithy, as is par for the course on an internet forum, but I qualified it with my subsequent post. So I'd say maybe you're bickering with the wrong guy.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:31 am to hubreb
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Nope...your confusing them with Taliban...Kurdish women are smoke shows with guns...don't even wear head wraps
Listen idiot, why don’t you look that up before you open your big, stupid, ignorant, no nothing mouth.
Kurds chop off clits from Kurdish news site
Idiot
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 8:34 am
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:32 am to AU4real35
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I don’t know much about this whole thing? Any good bipartisan links out there, this might be impossible for 2019.
Ron Paul liberty report gives about as honest of a perspective on things like this (all things really)
Be wary of bi-partisan support
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:33 am to Centinel
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When I see knee jerk emotional responses, I point them out.
Maybe you should call Trump out then, because by all accounts his decision caught the military completely off guard and unprepared.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:36 am to The Spleen
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We've all but abandoned a prison holding thousands of former ISIS fighters who will likely be freed, if they haven't already.
I dont understand why they just havent blown the prison up yet. Seems like a simple solution since they hate these people so much.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:36 am to lsu2006
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At worst we've left a long-time ally out to dry
How have we left them to dry when we are still arming and funding them?
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:38 am to windshieldman
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How have we left them to dry when we are still arming and funding them?
Because our presence there has kept Turkey from invading from the north, so they could focus their fight on ISIS to their South. Now they are vulnerable to attacks from Turkey, while also continuing their fighting with ISIS.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:39 am to The Spleen
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Maybe you should call Trump out then, because by all accounts his decision caught the military completely off guard and unprepared.
Why do progs always lie
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:41 am to The Spleen
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Because our presence there has kept Turkey from invading from the north
No it didn’t, Turkey took over northern Syria almost 2 years ago. Look up Afrin
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:41 am to The Spleen
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because by all accounts his decision caught the military completely off guard and unprepared.
And "by all accounts" you mean unnamed "sources" according to Foreign Policy magazine that every other network ran with.
Which even if true gives no evidence it was an emotional knee jerk reaction.
Try again.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:43 am to The Spleen
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Now they are vulnerable to attacks from Turkey, while also continuing their fighting with ISIS.
I want you to respond to my other post above if you haven’t yet. Most estimates in the entire country of Syria there are around 2,000 ISIS fighters, the majority being in Syrian regime area. SDF has over 40,000 fighters and YPG over 20,000. If they can’t continue to handle ISIS that’s their problem
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 8:45 am
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:45 am to windshieldman
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If they can’t continue to handle ISIS that’s their problem
Which will eventually be our problem. Again.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:46 am to windshieldman
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