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re: Tulsa cop charged with first-degree manslaughter
Posted on 9/22/16 at 5:43 pm to OweO
Posted on 9/22/16 at 5:43 pm to OweO
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Are you going to hesitate to see what they are doing?
One billion percent yes. Holy shite, do you actually think that's debatable there? If you, as a private citizen, shot that guy and there was no gun, you would be thrown in jail with a murder charge.
Please tell me you don't conceal carry, because literally any basic class would tell you that is a horrible idea. If at all possible, you get the frick out of there. If someone is breaking into your car and you do NOT keep a weapon in there, take a picture and call the cops. Why would you even go out there displaying a gun?
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 5:46 pm
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 5:49 pm to thegreatboudini
quote:Well, this is incorrect.
Let me give you a common sense lesson, disobeying commands by a law enforcement officer means you're liable for anything that happens from that point forward. No pity from me
Posted on 9/22/16 at 5:55 pm to OweO
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But what if you dont know someone has a weapon or has something that appears as a weapon but isnt?
Deadly force isn't justified.
Here's something that will make you say is total bullshite... they can possess a weapon, but if they aren't necessarily pointing it at anyone, deadly force response isn't justified in most cases.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 9/22/16 at 5:58 pm to zsav77
Alright white ppl it's time to loot!!
White gurl jus doin her job and dey tryna lock her up and trow away da key.
AWW HELL NAW YALL
White gurl jus doin her job and dey tryna lock her up and trow away da key.
AWW HELL NAW YALL
Posted on 9/22/16 at 8:20 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Disobeying lawful commands has never been grounds for shooting and killing someone. At least not in the USA. You might do better in North Korea.
Right it's grounds to get arrested. Which is what they're supposed to do. I personally also know someone who was told get your license and registration. They reached for it and had a gun put to their head. Stop hiring pussy cops and you won't have pussy scary arse reactions.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 9/22/16 at 8:37 pm to crimsonsaint
They better lock her arse up!.... being honest here even thogh we have to have them, I can't stand a cop but she lost it and shot him down without cause. She will do time over that shooting. How much,... who knows but she will and should go down for that shooting.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:01 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Agree this is the most likely scenario. Multiple cops with only one firing a shot and only a single shot at that. I think she panicked and pulled the trigger.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:22 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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The criminal complaint against Shelby said her "fear resulted in her unreasonable actions which led her to shooting" Crutcher. She is accused of "unlawfully and unnecessarily" shooting Crutcher after he did not comply with her "lawful orders."
LINK
In the video to the side they show the window was up.
Surely some will comment about the the front window being much lighter. As with most vehicles, the backs are tinted, not the front. And his SUV is one of them
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:52 pm to thegreatboudini
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Let me give you a common sense lesson, disobeying commands by a law enforcement officer means you're liable for anything that happens from that point forward. No pity from me
People like you worry me.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:19 pm to thegreatboudini
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Let me give you a common sense lesson, disobeying commands by a law enforcement officer means you're liable for anything that happens from that point forward. No pity from me
Absolutely. Not obeying orders should get you killed.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:06 am to thegreatboudini
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Let me give you a common sense lesson, disobeying commands by a law enforcement officer means you're liable for anything that happens from that point forward. No pity from me
What if they are deaf, don't speak English, a diabetic confused from low blood sugar, or having a drug reaction, maybe have a mental illness, or any of a hundred other things that could cause a person to appear to disobey because at the time they don't understand what is happening? Law enforcement has devolved almost to the point of if they don't understand it they kill it.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:31 am to OweO
First off the dude was a complete dumbazz for not heeding the officers commands. Darwinism at it's finest.
That said, he didn't deserve to die. There was an officer right next to her with a taser. Let him light up Mr. "I'm gonna do whatever I want" and let him dance to some voltage. If he produces a weapon at that point then you double tap and call it a day. But she never let the taser have a chance of doing the job. She f-d up and now gets a chance to explain it to a jury.
Not the first time a female cop was too quick on the trigger FWIW
LINK
That said, he didn't deserve to die. There was an officer right next to her with a taser. Let him light up Mr. "I'm gonna do whatever I want" and let him dance to some voltage. If he produces a weapon at that point then you double tap and call it a day. But she never let the taser have a chance of doing the job. She f-d up and now gets a chance to explain it to a jury.
Not the first time a female cop was too quick on the trigger FWIW
LINK
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:51 am to Ash Williams
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Great, now can they stop with the fricking protests and get back to work?
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protests
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back to work
My ninja, they are at work. Or the closest thing they get to it.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:53 am to Byrdybyrd05
I believe the major determining factor in this case is whether or not the guys windows were up.
I have seen reports claiming the window was open, and i have also seen reports claiming that it was closed. I honestly dont know what to believe.
I have seen reports claiming the window was open, and i have also seen reports claiming that it was closed. I honestly dont know what to believe.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:44 am to Byrdybyrd05
She'll get probation at most. Then back on the streets with a raise
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:48 am to OweO
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Shelby opened fire when the man began to reach into his SUV window.
According to reports, said window was rolled up at the time.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 5:28 am to QJenk
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I have seen reports claiming the window was open, and i have also seen reports claiming that it was closed. I honestly dont know what to believe.
Look a few posts up from yours on page seven and you will see it was up.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 5:38 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 6:37 am to Byrdybyrd05
Her version of what transpired didn't correspond with evidence collected at the scene. The only thing that'll save her is if his toxicology reports show that he was on something. Otherwise she's screwed. She let her fear/emotions get the best of her.
The guy in the copter with his classic racial profiling comment certainly didn't help matters any.
The guy in the copter with his classic racial profiling comment certainly didn't help matters any.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 6:40 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 6:56 am to Byrdybyrd05
Now people are arguing that she was only charged because she was a woman and others are arguing that she should be slapped with first-degree murder.
There is just no winning.
There is just no winning.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 6:57 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:34 am to Ash Williams
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now can they stop with the fricking protests and get back to work?
get back to work.... that's funny
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