re: Trying to settle a heated argument about rape

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If you were smart, you wouldn't get involved in an argument involving rape.

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I get into an argument on every topic, rape is not untouchable.

I don't really understand why that is important. Rape is bad. Lying about rape is bad. Anyone who does either is a tPOS

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Ramsay did not rape her

Overview of False Reporting

More actual rapes occur than false reports. Rape being the most under reported crime it is difficult to get an accurate percentage.

But, even when you only look at "REPORTED RAPES", it still is not a high number. In my experience false reports occur for 2 reasons. The person making the claim has a legit mental disorder. The other is they are trying to get out of trouble (someone mentioned Daddy's little girl gets caught so she makes it up).

Most police (not New Orleans) are very good at sniffing out false reports. A common misconception is that if the victim lies at any point during her initial interview with police, she is lying about the whole thing.

For example, she may have went out to the parking lot with the accused to smoke pot and then he raped her. She will deny smoking the weed, and when the drug test comes back positive, she looks like a liar. Just because something like that happens it does not mean she was lying about everything else, she just didn't want to admit to an illegal activity.

Also, just because a case can't be proven (Jameis Winston), it does not mean it did not happen. Unfounded cases are NOT "False reports".

So whoever said more rapes happen than false reports...WINS

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Conclusion


Research shows that rates of false reporting
are frequently inflated, in part because of
inconsistent definitions and protocols, or a weak
understanding of sexual assault. Misconceptions
about false reporting rates have direct, negative
consequences and can contribute to why many
victims don’t report sexual assaults (Lisak et
al., 2010). To improve the response to victims
of sexual violence, law enforcement and service
providers need a thorough understanding
of sexual violence and consistency in their
definitions, policies and procedures.

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False rape accusations are rare. Less than 10% of reported rapes, yet only 20% of campus rape victims report.

So for everyone 100 actual rapes, 20 are reported.
So for every 22 reported rapes, 1 is a false accusation.

So for every 100 actual rapes, less than 5 False accusations occur. 5% False accusation is no less than false theft claims or false robbery claims.

So for every 1000 rapes
200 are reported
20 lead to an arrest
2 leads to a conviction.

Are something close to it based on the studies.

Though arrest and convictions from false accusations have happened, its the exception, not the rule. The rule is most likely the rapist will get away with it, over, and over again.

Jody, you're a good dude and it's admirable that you're bringingsome research to the discussion. So, forgive me when I say that I simply don't trust a lot of the supposed research on this topic, especially any statistic that talks about the number of unreported rapes (how do they know) and especially unreported rapes on college campuses. Agenda driven research is a huge problem.

Are you trying to TRIGGER the board?

Absolutely not, not even close. Of course there bogus claims, but this is a myth.