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Trump signs executive order for study of U.S. troops at "black goo" base who got cancer

Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:54 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:54 am
Some of you may not have heard of the story of the "black goo" base in Uzbekistan. The base was an old Soviet base that was known as "K2." The base was used by U.S. forces following 9/11 as a support base for operations against al-Qaeda. However, there was a huge problem at K2:

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The former Soviet base, known as “K2,” was riddled with toxic dangers. Chemical weapons remnants and low-level processed uranium remained in the soil. Pools of solvents that had polluted the grounds for years formed a “black goo” at soldiers’ feet when they walked.


It has since been found that hundreds of U.S. troops stationed at K2 have come down with various forms of cancer. I bring this story up because my family had a close friend who was stationed there. He developed brain cancer not long after returning from there. He battled brain cancer and its effects for years before passing away in 2017.

And here is information on the Executive Order:

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The executive order requires the VA and Department of Defense to identify which toxins were found at K2, where on the base they were found and which service members may have been exposed to them.

It also calls for a study similar to those required in the annual funding bills for the Department of Defense and VA that Congress passed last year, to determine “any health consequences” that may be tied to the toxins at K2, to make decisions on which of those health conditions should be automatically covered by the VA.

“After a two-decade wait for action, we are encouraged by K2’s recognition by the federal government,” said retired Master Sgt. Paul Widener, who served at K2 for multiple deployments and who launched a private Facebook group in 2012 to try and help all the K2 veterans who were ill.

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Hopefully this will ultimately benefit those U.S. troops harmed by the effects of K2. The article has a link to a full story from McClatchy about K2 for those who want to read more about it.

This isn't meant as a political post, so that's why I posted it here.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 9:56 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:56 am to
Never heard of that; that's crazy. I feel like there could be a great documentary made about this subject. I'd watch for sure.

Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:59 am to
Just another reason to keep troops home and stop wars that enrich our elites
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:00 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:00 am to
That's pretty interesting. Never heard anything about that place or the black goo. I wonder how long and who knew about it and the problems it was causing for troops before it was ran up the chain. Will be interested to see the final report in that place.

No telling what it was. The soviets just did not GAF about nuclear/toxic waste at all. We've all seen what they did at Chernobyl.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:01 am to
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Just another reason to keep troops home and stop wars that enrich our elites


Good thing we now have a President who'll make sure we get entangled in more foreign wars.

Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:03 am to
agent orange > black goo
Posted by HammerheadLincoln
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:03 am to
Damn, never knew about this.

Hopefully these troops can get help and they are able to figure out more about this.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:03 am to
What about the burn pits in Iraq and all the harm to health of soldiers stationed there.
Frick George W.Bush
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42139 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:04 am to
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That's pretty interesting. Never heard anything about that place or the black goo. I wonder how long and who knew about it and the problems it was causing for troops before it was ran up the chain. Will be interested to see the final report in that place.

This article from 2019 has a lot more of the backstory:

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Based on this article, the DOD had knowledge of hazards before U.S. troops even arrived. Those troops who have developed cancer after being stationed there have struggled to get the Department of Veterans Affairs to cover the costs of their medical treatment for these cancers.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:12 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:10 am to
I've never heard this. This is seriously screwed up. I hope they can get to the bottom of this and get help to those impacted.
Posted by RedPop4
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:12 am to
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Just another reason to keep troops home and stop wars that enrich our elites
Well, the president tried not starting anything new, and withdrawing those over there.

That's all over in a few minutes.
Posted by Epaminondas
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:13 am to
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Trump signs executive order...
NOW? He's been president for four years and he just got around to this?
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:14 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:14 am to
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NOW? He's been president for four years and he just got around to this?



was busy on twitter, he's had some free time the last few weeks
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:16 am to
Wiki X Files Black Oil episodes

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Purity, more commonly referred to as black oil, and called the "black cancer" by the Russians, is an alien virus that thrived underground on Earth, in petroleum deposits. The virus is capable of entering humanoids and assuming control of their bodies. It has sentience and is capable of communicating. It was revealed to be the "life force" of the alien colonists, which they seemingly used to reproduce their kind, as well as infect other alien races in order to conquer the universe. The Syndicate in cooperation with the alien Colonists developed a delivery mechanism that would be used to introduce the virus into an unsuspecting public upon colonization. Africanized bees, extremely aggressive, that would sting indiscriminately, would carry the black oil virus through a transgenic corn crop specifically engineered to carry the virus and to attract the bees. The bees would be released on colonization and the infected human beings would become a slave race. The Syndicate, however, secretly tried to create a vaccine to protect themselves, which they code-named "Purity Control." While the Purity Control project ultimately fails, a rival Russian shadow group was successful in developing a weak vaccine that eventually fell into the hands of the Syndicate. The plot to cooperate with the alien colonization plan was implemented with the aim of being given access to the black oil for the transgenic corn, in order to perform experiments with it in an effort to develop a vaccine. This attempt was semi-successful, as the "weak vaccine" administered to Scully while in the Antarctic alien ship was able to cure her infection and cause the entire ship to depart its underground residence. After the events of the 1998 film, the Syndicate, as well as Mulder and Scully, learned that the black oil can either take over a host's body or incubate within other life forms, including humans. Once infected with the gestational form of the black oil virus, a human host gestates the immature alien form after 96 hours, or sooner if the surrounding temperature is raised significantly, killing the host in the process.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42139 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:18 am to
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NOW? He's been president for four years and he just got around to this?


Well, that's not all on him. The VA has heavily disputed the impacts of K2 on cancer in these troops, despite the obvious connection. So it has been a slow process of a lot of arguing to get to this point. Getting anyone in the government/military to recognize the impacts of K2 has taken a long time.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:20 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19179 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:19 am to
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Based on this article, the DOD had knowledge of hazards before U.S. troops even arrived

Of course they fricking did...
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Those troops who have developed cancer after being stationed there have struggled to get the Department of Veterans Affairs to cover the costs of their medical treatment for these cancers.

Of course they have...

That's downright shameful. Hope they get to the bottom of this and hold someone accountable. As well as get these guys the treatment they need. fricking government, man
Posted by RedPop4
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:20 am to
The Swamp at its finest.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42139 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:21 am to
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Of course they have...

Just read this quote:

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In 2009, Army Master Sgt. Jeff Skinner found that the secrecy of his mission had limited what documents he could get to the VA. He was 39 and fighting stage 4 brain cancer.

“The VA continues to deny my claims. I am desperate,” Skinner wrote. “All of my savings and my spouse’s 401K have been dissolved.”

Skinner had deployed to K2 in 2002 with the 1st Battalion, 20th Special Forces Group and was asking the Army to release classified documents to the VA about his service at the Uzbek base.

Army special operations command got involved, and Skinner’s appeal was finally approved, said his widow Missy Skinner. But when she looked through his paperwork to see what changed the agency’s mind, she could not find anything that cited his deployment.

“Nothing about K2,” she said.

Even after finally granting this solider's appeal, the VA still refused to officially recognize the connection between his brain cancer and K2.

Multiple troops developing brain cancer (like I said, our family friend who was there also had brain cancer), and still the VA would not recognize the connection.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5805 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:30 am to
John McCain failed the American Veteran. Have posted this numerous times. Despite what he suffered through in Vietnam, he did nothing to support his fellow veterans. Trump did more for veterans in 4 years than McCain did in 25 plus. He ignored problems with the VA medical system and infrastructure , specific post 9/11 issues like the burn pits in Iraq and black goo and the PTSD / suicide crisis.
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