re: True or false: it's harder to get a job that covers basic living now

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I disagree. To hold a job, you must have a phone.

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I'm pretty sure if you need a phone for your job, you're employer will provide it to you, or at least a stipend for one.

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You're right. People don't think this way though.

They take out $100k in student loans to study marketing. Then they graduate and complain out student loans and needing loan forgiveness. It's not free money. It's an investment in your future success. If you can't project that success in your desired field of study, you better pick another field or be prepared to live in poverty.

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Throw Nursing in that group as well. Actually a nurse that works hard as frick can make 6 figs in less than 5 years. That's a shite ton of hours though.

In reality this needs to be in bold print on College applications.

Or expected income and job availability should be plastered next to each degree plan.

College is now a means to leave one social economic group and move up into another. It is not a place to get "enlightened" at anymore. Stop treating it like it is.

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30 years ago, basic living was a small apartment with some shady neighbors, some lead paint, and asbestos, with off-site laundry, no swimming pool, no dishwasher and a leaky refrigerator, and no cell phone

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No it wasn't. Every place I lived had dishwasher, pool (that I rarely used), washer/dryer,Good fridge, no asbestos,etc. First place out of college was a condo I rented.....I was making $21,000/yr in Orange County, Cali. I didn't have a lot of extra $$ but I was fine. I had offers in Houston paying $16,000 and that would have been plenty.

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, you went to a pay phone to make long distance calls

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The only time I ever did that was when I was going to school in england. In the US, you had long distance on your phone.....you did pay more but I rarely called LD.

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a TV with 11 channels

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Had tons of cable channels.

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A 1970's model sedan in the parking lot that you need to occassionally use ether in the carbuerator to start.

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Bought a new car when I graduated.....Isuzu Impulse....not fancy but I drove the shite out of that car for over 10 years with never any problems.

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True, but it doesn't have to be a smartphone with a data plan. There's cheap basic phones and plans that run $15/month for just talk and text, but people who need government assistance to pay for their groceries and housing still end up finding a way to get $500+ iPhones that cost $50/month for data plans. G

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Yep. I have 3 lines with Verizon with unlimited data. Pay around $230/month. If someone working a shitty job has this same plan, well, they're stupid and deserve not to eat.

An iPhone 7 is not a basic living requirement, but you need a cell phone with some minutes if you want gainful employment. You can get a Walmart phone at a very low cost.

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Throw Nursing in that group as well. Actually a nurse that works hard as frick can make 6 figs in less than 5 years. That's a shite ton of hours though.

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I met a nurse that has two full time jobs. She's single and making bank.

One job she has is the 7 day/12 hour shifts, 7 day off variety. The other she works 6 24 hour shifts per month within the 7 days off.

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30 years ago, basic living was a small apartment with some shady neighbors, some lead paint, and asbestos, with off-site laundry, no swimming pool, no dishwasher and a leaky refrigerator, and no cell phone. Wall phone only with no long distance, you went to a pay phone to make long distance calls, a TV with 11 channels and a VCR. A 1970's model sedan in the parking lot that you need to occassionally use ether in the carbuerator to start.

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My parents bought their 3-bedroom house they still live in, in a middle-class part of town, in the mid-70s. At the time, only my Dad was working for the railroad. Without a college degree. They had TV and good used cars.

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Name and number please . We can talk about our bank accounts together (jk)

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She's 28 and single and rocking it. I'd put her firmly in the "cute" column. You know the girls that could be hot when they want to but they don't feel like dressing up all the time.

She'd be an incredible catch but in her words she doesn't have time to date!

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I don't think a cell phone is part of basic living where as some others would disagree.

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a cellphone is an absolute must now. You won't go anywhere in life without some way for people to reach you. Now a new iPhone isn't a part of basic living but a phone is

Whats the purchasing power of the dollar look like over time? Asking for a friend.