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re: Tried to talk my son out of getting married. It didn't go well.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:08 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:08 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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Do u even annulment, baw
You would still have to prove that the marriage was never valid in the eyes of the Church. Not very easy.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:09 pm to bawbarn
More requests for annulment are approved than denied in the American Catholic Church.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:15 pm to Slippy
Where True love exists, difficult things are easy. Where True love does not exist easy things are difficult.
Stats show that more marriages SUCCEED when the couple engages in the marital embrace for the first time AFTER being married.
More than 60% of marriages FAIL if the couple engages in the marital embrace BEFORE being married.
If they can wait, then difficult things are becoming easy for them, and their marriage will have a high chance to succeed.
Uber-catholics do wait until marriage to engage in the marital embrace.
Under no circumstances should a couple use any form of contraception. Why? Because TRUE LOVE desires to completely give one to the other and completely receive one another. Contraception says, "I'll give this much of myself to you, but not all of me, and I will receive this much of you, but I WILL NOT receive this part of you.
Subconsciously the two bodies are saying, "I do not completely give myself to you, and I do not completely receive you.
Also, the Act of Creation is thwarted; therefore, who is being invited into the marriage? Satan the one who destroys creation or the Holy Spirit who creates?
If one does not get the issue of life correct, then one can not get any issue correct because ALL ISSUES FLOW FROM LIFE.
If they are catholics that practice their faith, are faithful to attending Sunday mass, then they have a greater chance to be faithful to each other.
They also must resist the 7 deadly sins one of which is Slothfulness/laziness. If not working is due to laziness, then they are not mature enough to be married, and will need to grow up more.
Say, "Son, I love you. I care for you, and I want you to be happy. I over reacted the other day. My words were insensitive and uncaring. I want you to know that even if I disagree with you I will support you if you choose to get married.
I only want to express my concerns. I would like you to prayerfully reflect on what I am about to tell you. After reflecting on my words for 9 days I will accept your decision. Here are my concerns:
(Go to adoration for one hour before the Blessed Sacrament in Church. Write down your concerns on the Presence of God.)
Tell him your concerns. Tell him you wrote them down in the Presence of God.
Sign, "I love you. Your Father." Give him a hug and a kiss.
No matter what happens or what he chooses he must KNOW you love him for better or for worse. He must know you will be there for him always, until the end of time.
God Bless you and I hope things work out for the best. It is close to Christmas. Make up with him and enjoy this Christmas like it's going to be the last.
Where True love exists, difficult things are easy. Where True love does not exist easy things are difficult.
Stats show that more marriages SUCCEED when the couple engages in the marital embrace for the first time AFTER being married.
More than 60% of marriages FAIL if the couple engages in the marital embrace BEFORE being married.
If they can wait, then difficult things are becoming easy for them, and their marriage will have a high chance to succeed.
Uber-catholics do wait until marriage to engage in the marital embrace.
Under no circumstances should a couple use any form of contraception. Why? Because TRUE LOVE desires to completely give one to the other and completely receive one another. Contraception says, "I'll give this much of myself to you, but not all of me, and I will receive this much of you, but I WILL NOT receive this part of you.
Subconsciously the two bodies are saying, "I do not completely give myself to you, and I do not completely receive you.
Also, the Act of Creation is thwarted; therefore, who is being invited into the marriage? Satan the one who destroys creation or the Holy Spirit who creates?
If one does not get the issue of life correct, then one can not get any issue correct because ALL ISSUES FLOW FROM LIFE.
If they are catholics that practice their faith, are faithful to attending Sunday mass, then they have a greater chance to be faithful to each other.
They also must resist the 7 deadly sins one of which is Slothfulness/laziness. If not working is due to laziness, then they are not mature enough to be married, and will need to grow up more.
Say, "Son, I love you. I care for you, and I want you to be happy. I over reacted the other day. My words were insensitive and uncaring. I want you to know that even if I disagree with you I will support you if you choose to get married.
I only want to express my concerns. I would like you to prayerfully reflect on what I am about to tell you. After reflecting on my words for 9 days I will accept your decision. Here are my concerns:
(Go to adoration for one hour before the Blessed Sacrament in Church. Write down your concerns on the Presence of God.)
Tell him your concerns. Tell him you wrote them down in the Presence of God.
Sign, "I love you. Your Father." Give him a hug and a kiss.
No matter what happens or what he chooses he must KNOW you love him for better or for worse. He must know you will be there for him always, until the end of time.
God Bless you and I hope things work out for the best. It is close to Christmas. Make up with him and enjoy this Christmas like it's going to be the last.
Where True love exists, difficult things are easy. Where True love does not exist easy things are difficult.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:15 pm to cj35
They are also strongly advised to withdraw if there is not a solid case for an annulment.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:21 pm to bawbarn
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You would still have to prove that the marriage was never valid in the eyes of the Church. Not very easy.
lolwut?
Very easy. Just say you were too young/immature to fully consent. It's like a get out of jail free card in the eyes of the tribune.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:22 pm to bawbarn
I have never known a couple who divorced and wanted an annulment not to get an annulment. I give the Archbishop grief about this regularly. I tell him I blame the failing Catholic family on the Church's handling of annulments.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:23 pm to djmicrobe
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Where True love exists, difficult things are easy.
Fairy tale nonsense. True love comes from time and hard work. All this pixie dust love crap is just a bunch of feelings, and just as you shouldn’t base your faith on feelings, you shouldn’t base your marriage on it either. Love is a decision. Attraction is a feeling.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:27 pm to Slippy
It's his decision. Be happy for him. You don't have to agree with it, just let him live his life and be there for him regardless. No reason sabotaging your relationship just because you think you know what's best for him.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:34 pm to TH03
sonny, when my generation was fighting the germans in WWI because they attacked either pearl harbor or pearl river we didnt have a pot to piss in and we had to walk to school everyday uphill, both ways, in the snow. so we do know best!!!!
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:42 pm to djmicrobe
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More than 60% of marriages FAIL if the couple engages in the marital embrace BEFORE being married.

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Under no circumstances should a couple use any form of contraception. Why? Because TRUE LOVE desires to completely give one to the other and completely receive one another. Contraception says, "I'll give this much of myself to you, but not all of me, and I will receive this much of you, but I WILL NOT receive this part of you.
Subconsciously the two bodies are saying, "I do not completely give myself to you, and I do not completely receive you.

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If one does not get the issue of life correct, then one can not get any issue correct because ALL ISSUES FLOW FROM LIFE

Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:53 pm to Slippy
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He's getting married in February. We all think he is too young and she is wrong for him. I mean I seriously think he is ruining his life. And I don't say that lightly.
He's pissed. I'm now in the Makers 46. I hate my fricking life.
Well, you tried. At least it's happening to someone else and not you.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:02 pm to Tigerlaff
Calling it now. First fight: “My dad said I was a damned fool to marry your sorry arse, and he was right!”
Then they will make up, but the bride will never forgive dad.
Then they will make up, but the bride will never forgive dad.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:05 pm to djmicrobe
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Stats show that more marriages SUCCEED when the couple engages in the marital embrace for the first time AFTER being married.
More than 60% of marriages FAIL if the couple engages in the marital embrace BEFORE being married.
I would never have gotten married before I lived with my wife for a little while. Living together is VERY different than dating.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:58 pm to Slippy
I proposed to my now wife when I was 23. Got my fist job within a month of the proposal. She had a 1 year old at the time. We have been happily married for 22 years and have two more kids whom I love more than anything.
I never felt like my family gave my wife and stepdaughter (hate that word) a real fair shake, but that's my opinion .
What I'm trying to say, from my experience, shut the frick up old man.
I never felt like my family gave my wife and stepdaughter (hate that word) a real fair shake, but that's my opinion .
What I'm trying to say, from my experience, shut the frick up old man.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:01 am to bawbarn
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You would still have to prove that the marriage was never valid in the eyes of the Church. Not very easy.
I know like two different couples who have gotten annulments with zero issue...
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:05 am to Slippy
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Oh, and I failed to mention that they are both uber-Catholic. Can't divorce. Natural family planning, I assume.
Catholicism goes out the window when the two are suddenly pregnant with a child they cannot support or she starts to feel "trapped" and "unappreciated". Trust me, there's a lot of "uber-Catholics" with divorces out there, believe me.
If you really want to put the safety kibosh on this:
abduct your son and have a doctor give him a vasectomy without his knowledge. That will keep him from knocking up his wife before they're financially ready. If things are going well in their marriage and they want to have kids, tell him how to get it reversed and offer to pay for it. If things are going poorly, you tell him to have a doctor (the same one who performed the secret vasectomy) check his fertility. The doctor tells him he's infertile absent corrective surgery. That's grounds for an annulment in the Catholic Church.
Loophole, lawyer-ed. You'll go to hell, but your son's soul will be peachy keen.
FYI: You're an idiot. Let your son live his life and make sure he knows that you're going to love and support him no matter what. He knows he might be too young, yet is taking a risk anyways. He needs your support and guidance, not sabotage. Trying to actively stop the wedding will only drive them together before the wedding, and put a wedge in their relationship afterwards. That is setting them up for failure.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 1:11 am
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:15 am to Slippy
Well shite man, it is 2017, are you sure she’s a she or a he she?
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:31 am to Slippy
Find him a better looking girl that will put out.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:44 am to johnnyrocket
I got married at 18. My girlfriend got pregnant and I did what I thought was right despite my whole family saying I was making a mistake. Just recently celebrated our 18 year anniversary and have two great kids. Family that thought I was an idiot are now divorced and have terrible children.
frick you dad!
frick you dad!
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