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re: Travel Ball Mecca
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:37 am to lsu777
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:37 am to lsu777
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high levels of travel ball is like if you only had the all star team from each league and only played with those.
I'll say it differently, travel ball is like taking the top 1 or 2 kids from every all star team in the area and making a team.
It has gotten watered down, but that describes the B class teams.
In C class you typically have 4-5 legit kids, and 5 that should still be playing rec. That's the issue now days.
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:38 am to lsu777
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again depends on what level you play at. i can tell you, if you want to play on a high level team in south louisiana......only about 8 from nola to LC...if that. even less in north & central LA now AA teams...there are tons of those everywhere. thats what some of yall dont seem to understand...yall see these AA teams and think that is how they all are...thats not the case.
You are basically saying what I’m saying. If your kid is not on a Majors/high level travel team you may as well save the money if you have a good rec league like we do in the Lafayette/Youngsville area. My point was you can do rec/all-stars at 10-11 years old and your kid will be fine. Most of these kids, we have no idea where they will be once puberty hits, that’s when the future HS/college kids will show themselves, not at 10 year old travel ball.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:39 am to lsu777
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so we should teach an 8 year old to hit the ball on the ground because other 8 years cant field at a high % rate? so what happens when they get to 10 and suddenly the other team isnt making those errors? if teaching the kid how to hit the ball correctly is teaching launch angle, guess i am.
Hard ground balls works for a guy that hit over .400 for LSU and is going 1 or 2 in the draft.
The creat lift fad in baseball is waining. Already being talked about in college circles.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:49 am to lsu777
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but fact of the matter is you arent making a good high school program playing rec ball. if that bothers you...oh well.
Talent helps. My cousin only played rec and when he was in 5th or 6th grade John Curtis coaches spotted him and started talking to his parents. He wound up playing for Rummel. Kid was a pitcher, grew to about 6'6" and went on to play college ball. This was 20+ years ago, so maybe it's different now.
I had a coworker who's daughter played travel softball. Girl is now playing for a small college. I joked that all the money you spent on travel probably covers whatever she's getting on scholarship.
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 10:50 am
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:53 am to HottyToddy7
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Hard ground balls works for a guy that hit over .400 for LSU and is going 1 or 2 in the draft.
you might want to actually go look at his trackman stats...aka exit velo and launch angle on his hits
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The creat lift fad in baseball is waining. Already being talked about in college circles.
again, go look at the stats of actual hits.
every swing has a launch angle. teaching someone to hit it in the angles that tend to produce base hits based on their typical exit velo is just teaching them to hit properly.
teaching launch angle doesnt mean you are taking the little skinny kid and teaching him to hit it at 40 degrees
again its one of those things you literally dont understand, but run at the mouth about. Do i need to link you the articles again like i have before showing what angles produce the best results based on exit velo aka how hard an athlete hits the ball?
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:54 am to 92Tiger
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This was 20+ years ago, so maybe it's different now.
ya think? travel ball wasnt even a thing then
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:58 am to Chad504boy
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where you at traction in March?
No. We were there end of April same weekend LSU played Alabama. There was no 10u division so we played up to 11u. Loat in championship to team from Mississippi in extra innings.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:00 am to lsu777
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BTW was that yall in the destin tourney?
No I think that was the 11u or 12u squad that went there.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:05 am to HottyToddy7
You believe Crews is going to be a high pick because he hits hard ground balls you are a bigger dumbass than it appears.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:06 am to lsu777
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again its one of those things you literally dont understand, but run at the mouth about. Do i need to link you the articles again like i have before showing what angles produce the best results based on exit velo aka how hard an athlete hits the ball?
I’m not doing this again. Crews hit a shot ton of ground balls and line drives. I don’t need track man to tell me what my eyes saw.
You are extreme. Keep entertaining people who laugh at you for 20 pages with how ridiculous you sound. But whatever man.
Good luck in Destin!
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:07 am to Tiger Ryno
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You believe Crews is going to be a high pick because he hits hard ground balls you are a bigger dumbass than it appears.
What? In no way did I say that. I said Crews isn’t creating lift with his swing. He hits hard ground balls and like drives and if he guesses right and catches it out front he hits balls out. It isn’t bat path created it is point of contact created. But if the best hitter in college baseball can buy into hitting hard ground balls and line drives everyone else can too. It’s a practical example.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:09 am to HottyToddy7
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Hard ground balls works for a guy that hit over .400 for LSU and is going 1 or 2 in the draft
This is exactly what you said.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:12 am to Tiger Ryno
I’m response to a phrase that you should never hit the ball on the ground…
Let me explain it like you are 5. LSU777 said you should never hit ground balls. Crews hits a ton of hard ground balls (along with a lot of line drives, very few fly balls). If Crews is ok with hitting a hard ground ball and hits over .400 and going 1 or 2 in the draft, it can’t be that bad for an 8 year old.
Let me explain it like you are 5. LSU777 said you should never hit ground balls. Crews hits a ton of hard ground balls (along with a lot of line drives, very few fly balls). If Crews is ok with hitting a hard ground ball and hits over .400 and going 1 or 2 in the draft, it can’t be that bad for an 8 year old.
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 11:15 am
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:13 am to 92Tiger
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I had a coworker who's daughter played travel softball. Girl is now playing for a small college. I joked that all the money you spent on travel probably covers whatever she's getting on scholarship.
I posted this in the last travel ball thread but I'll post it again. As a parent what would you rather for your child a 4-5 year stint at a place like Louisiana College, or LSU-E that might include a stop at one of 100 JUCOs in Mississippi or a 3.5-4 year college experience at the honors program at LSU or a degree from Tulane?
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:14 am to HottyToddy7
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What? In no way did I say that. I said Crews isn’t creating lift with his swing. He hits hard ground balls and like drives and if he guesses right and catches it out front he hits balls out. It isn’t bat path created it is point of contact created. But if the best hitter in college baseball can buy into hitting hard ground balls and line drives everyone else can too. It’s a practical example.
what launch angle do you think he is hitting those line drives at? it aint negative and it aint zero i can promise that. its in the 8-15 range.
to accomplish this, he has a positive attack angle and as you mentioned, when he catches it out front he hits it out(not true as he has opposite field HRs too)....how do you think he accomplishes this???? by getting on plane early(pitch is coming at a negative angle btw) and staying in the zone for as long as possible before rolling over
and crews doesnt hit that many ground balls for base hits. your eyes are lying to you. go look at the stats, the non biased data dude.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:15 am to HottyToddy7
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I’m response to a phrase that you should never hit the ball on the ground…
Let me explain it like you are 5. LSU777 said you should never hit ground balls. Crews hits a ton of hard ground balls (along with a lot of line drives, very few fly balls). If Crews is ok with hitting a hard ground ball and hits over .400 and going 1 or 2 in the draft, it can’t be that bad for an 8 year old.
as much as possible you shouldnt because by % ground balls result in an out alot high percentage of the time. why is that so hard to understand?
the data is pretty damn clear
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:16 am to lsu777
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how do you think he accomplishes this???? by getting on plane early(pitch is coming at a negative angle btw) and staying in the zone for as long as possible before rolling over
Out front an outside pitch is right at the top of the plate, out front of an inside pitch is way out front of the plate. It takes nuance to understand actual baseball and not some eco shield dude on YouTube giving you catch phrases to talk to all your travel ball dads about.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:17 am to lsu777
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s much as possible you shouldnt because by % ground balls result in an out alot high percentage of the time. why is that so hard to understand?
95% of balls hit up that don’t get out are outs. That percentage of balls hit on the ground is a whole lot less. Are you that stupid?
3 options, ground ball, line drive, fly ball.
2 have chances to get ioy to 1st.
1 has almost 0 chance unless you hit it over the fence.
Why the frick would you teach the fly ball route? It’s ridiculously dumb and short sighted.
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 11:20 am
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:17 am to lsu777
Dude has to be trolling at this point.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:20 am to Tiger Ryno
No just point out the craziness of what y’all think a hitters approach should be.
Go watch every DC ab at the CWS. More ground balls than anything else. A few line drives. Almost no lazy fly balls.
When you kids make the high school team and they spend the whole freshmen year doing push-ups because all they can do is hit lazy fly balls to the pull side and the coach says “get it out of the air”, you will know what I’m talking about.
Go watch every DC ab at the CWS. More ground balls than anything else. A few line drives. Almost no lazy fly balls.
When you kids make the high school team and they spend the whole freshmen year doing push-ups because all they can do is hit lazy fly balls to the pull side and the coach says “get it out of the air”, you will know what I’m talking about.
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 11:24 am
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