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re: Train Derailment in Pecos, TX

Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Damn! Was he just standing there or did he jump on the tracks right before?


He stepped between the rails, turned away and bent over.

Heard the coupler close when it hit him.

There was more blood on the second unit than the lead as he balled up under the train. Even then, I tossed that pair of gloves in the ditch after I got off the locomotive due to being tainted with blood.

The recrew got home before I did as the dispatcher didn't bother to call us a long haul cab when he called the relief crew. Yeah, he heard about it. Typical railroad bullshite.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10982 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

UP has been requiring oil companies to pay for flagman


This but everything in your post is spot on. We build pipelines and UP has required third party inspectors/flaggers (RailPros) when we cross their RR's for years. I doubt you would have needed one for a permit load like this. We basically pay them to sit there and watch nothing really since most crossings are in a drill that is deep and well under the tracks. They used to be dry bored with casing but not really anymore since we go so deep now. I saw this video yesterday and I have built numerous pipelines in Pecos and crossed this RR numerous times. I have no clue how this driver got stuck. I imagine that crossing gets a bazillion permit load crossing a year and should have been redflagged as a potential hazard by either the escort or the driver beforehand. So like yous said, I would expect the escort company and the trucking company to be toast after this.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72928 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:54 pm to
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I drove for 44 years and never got hung up on a RR crossing.
Too busy high pointing on Lot Lizards?

Amirite?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40251 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:55 pm to
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BuckyCheese


Our resident train defender

quote:

Stay off the tracks. Perfectly safe.


If trucks have to cross a train track, there is the potential to get stuck. I doubt the truck got hung up intentionally

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Same incident could have happened out in the country, They too fast there too?


In the country is there a chamber of commerce building to derail into?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:57 pm to
Bring a better argument as the above is laughable.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:59 pm to
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LSUFanHouston

Bucky did this for a living, I think I would defer to him when it comes to railroad/train issues/questions.

Do better.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:09 pm to
Did, not does.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:16 pm to


Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Personally, I never dump the air until impact.

Dang man, you make it sound like this is a pretty common occurrence for you. How many times have you hit someone?
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6038 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:25 pm to
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He stepped between the rails, turned away and bent over.

Heard the coupler close when it hit him.


I hit a guy who was walking away from us just outside the guage of the rail. Hit him do hard his skull bent the cut lever on the locomotive completely backwards. His hearing aid was caught up in it too which explained why he didnt hear me blow for 30 seconds straight.

His head exploded like a watermelon at a Gallagher show.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 2:27 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:26 pm to
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I hit a guy so hard his skull bent the cut lever on the locomotive completely backwards.

His head exploded like a watermelon at a Gallagher show.



This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6038 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:32 pm to
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Dang man, you make it sound like this is a pretty common occurrence for you. How many times have you hit someone


I have 8 fatalities in 23 years. 7 were pedestrians & 1 was in a vehicle. Probably another 7 or 8 incidents but they survived.

My first was a 16 year old kid who was in the car with his girlfriend. She was breaking up with him & he heard the train horn - jumped out of the car & laid down on the tracks.
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:38 pm to
Holy Cow.
Prayers of safety for y'all. There are plenty of dumbasses that don't quite get the basic fundamentals of physics or just don't care about anyone but themselves. God Bless Y'all.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:40 pm to
Jesus. Must have something to do with the territory or something? Didn't generally see many pedestrians where I ran outside of Chicago.

We had an old head that had somewhere around 30 over his career. Mostly grade crossings and for much of his career there were a lot unprotected. Poor slob had PTSD.

I was fortunate. One suicide and one conductor. Cornered a car that had rolled back to foul while kicking cars in the dark. Car he was riding landed on him.

Lots of close calls of course. Most interesting one was dropping a car off a bridge onto the road below. No one was under the car that time. A couple years later was a different story at the same location.



This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:46 pm to
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My first was a 16 year old kid who was in the car with his girlfriend. She was breaking up with him & he heard the train horn - jumped out of the car & laid down on the tracks.

Jesus
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6038 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:05 pm to
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Lots of close calls of course. Most interesting one was dropping a car off a bridge onto the road below


Haha we had one of those a month ago. Car ran off a bridge & laying upside down on the tracks.

In my experience, it's totally & completely random. I have an old head golf partner that worked for 36 years & never had an incident.

On the other hand, we have an engineer w us now who killed 13 in less than a year. There's no ryhme or reason to it.

Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10721 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:07 pm to
I wonder if he lost air pressure in his air bags?

It's stupid to bring that load on that route anyway with all the traffic on that highway.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:16 pm to


When I heard the air go, while stopped, I knew something was up.

The guy I was holding for derailed into the side of my train.

The fire department was real concerned about those propane tanks that car was hanging over. Some dude went in there and disconnected them so they could drag them out.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 3:18 pm
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:17 pm to
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The engineer could have spiked the brakes 1000 feet out and you wouldn't notice much difference in speed before impact at 70MPH.


Why were they going that fast? Shouldn’t speed be reduced in a populated area?

I honestly don’t know much about locomotive operations. Genuinely curious how a train could be traveling that fast in such a high-traffic area.
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
10008 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:17 pm to
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I've been to a Walmart in Pecos, TX. I was a new PETE spending 1 week a month in the fields of Loving Country.

Well, I loved a girl
She lived out in Pecos,
And pretty as she could be
And I worked the rigs on out in Odessa
To give her whatever she needs
But that girl, she run with an oil company bum 'Cause the diamond was not on her hand
And he left her soon 'neath the big Loving moon
To go out and X-ray the land
Now I sit in my car at the New Rainbow Bar downtown
And the frost on the windshield shines toward the sky Like a thousand tiny diamonds in the lights of Loving County
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