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re: Tow vehicle for 5th wheel
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:12 am to greenbean
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:12 am to greenbean
I pulled a 5th wheel bigger than that with a 2500 for 5 years. Many trips not just a couple times a year… pulled it with no problems whatsoever. Ideally a 3500 would be better and safer but 2500 will easily pull it.
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:13 am to greenbean
So depending on what you’re going to do with it will drive some of the requirements.
The 350/3500 trucks will pull it well. A F-250 depending on gearing can pull up to 23,000 in a 5th wheel set up.
If your planning on going out west a diesel makes the most since - not only because it’s a little better on the pull up hill, it controls speed on the downhill better. More people probably get in trouble on the down hill than up.
I would not suggest a dually unless you’re planning on traveling a lot. Them Then the added stability is nice and I think the ride balances out to be better.
If you go to dually, I’d look at jumping to a F-450 - the tighter turning radius of the wide track front end really makes a difference. The 450 turns tights than a 250.
Good luck and if you haven’t pulled a lot of trailers practice where there’s no traffic. Hell, even a parking lot works for getting used to a trailer some.
The 350/3500 trucks will pull it well. A F-250 depending on gearing can pull up to 23,000 in a 5th wheel set up.
If your planning on going out west a diesel makes the most since - not only because it’s a little better on the pull up hill, it controls speed on the downhill better. More people probably get in trouble on the down hill than up.
I would not suggest a dually unless you’re planning on traveling a lot. Them Then the added stability is nice and I think the ride balances out to be better.
If you go to dually, I’d look at jumping to a F-450 - the tighter turning radius of the wide track front end really makes a difference. The 450 turns tights than a 250.
Good luck and if you haven’t pulled a lot of trailers practice where there’s no traffic. Hell, even a parking lot works for getting used to a trailer some.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:15 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Man you sure have a ton of bad truck takes
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:16 am to greenbean
If it's a 5th wheel, I would suggest a dually whether the weight requires it or not. That's for travel. If you are just going around fairly close you could get by with single axle.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:16 am to greenbean
That’s a big ole bitch I’d recommend 1 ton diesel dually to do it right. Pin weight will be high on that rig
That inherited camper about to cost you $90k
That inherited camper about to cost you $90k
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 10:18 am
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:20 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Do not get a 3/4 ton for a 5th wheel.
A 1 ton is totally necessary and a dually is probably necessary as well, and if not totally encessary, it certainly is nice to have. The tongue weight on most 5th wheels is rediculous once they're loaded to travel weight.
OP, get a one ton dually, or get rid of the trailer. 5th wheel = one ton dually, with very few specific exceptions.
Absolutely this.
Anyone that disagrees can't math well.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:22 am to greenbean
will be a 3k plus pin weight.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:25 am to cubsfan5150
No, I dont. I live in a state chock full of retards who think F250 diesels can safely tow 40' toy haulers.
Hence the blanket recommendation that 5th wheel = 1 ton dually. 90% of the state is too stupid to understand any of the things required to make an actual educated decision, and most of the time a dually will be the correct answer anyway. There is zero downside to having a dually besides a slight increase in purchase price and tires. So, if you have or want a 5th wheel, just get a 1 ton dually.
Hence the blanket recommendation that 5th wheel = 1 ton dually. 90% of the state is too stupid to understand any of the things required to make an actual educated decision, and most of the time a dually will be the correct answer anyway. There is zero downside to having a dually besides a slight increase in purchase price and tires. So, if you have or want a 5th wheel, just get a 1 ton dually.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:28 am to N2cars
quote:
Absolutely this.
Anyone that disagrees can't math well.
I posted my actual numbers on the first page, explain to me where my 3/4 is underrated to pull my fifth wheel.
While you're at it, explain to me the difference between a 3/4 ton max tow vs a 1 ton SRW.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:29 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
live in a state chock full of retards who think F250 diesels can safely tow 40' toy haulers.
Right now you're a retard on the other side making blanket statements without knowing the numbers of the rig.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:30 am to BoogaBear
Was referring to OP's situation.
I didn't read your numbers, honestly.
I didn't read your numbers, honestly.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:32 am to greenbean
My 6.7L diesel F250 Super Duty would tow that comfortably. I don’t think you’d need the 350 dually.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:34 am to Floyd Dawg
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My 6.7L diesel F250 Super Duty would tow that comfortably. I don’t think you’d need the 350 dually.
Likely would, 100%. You would however be over payload numbers.
I also truly believe stated payload numbers on 3/4 ton trucks are bullshite due to regulations, they are much more capable than the sticker on the door. However, good luck getting that to hold up in court.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:36 am to BoogaBear
I could point out where I posted about his rigs specific numbers. I could also point out where i said why I am making the blanket statements I am making. I could also point out where I said I knew some jackass would show up with his one specific case where a non dually works. There will be others doing the same thing. I dont care. The message is 5th wheel = dually, and youre safe and don't need to worry about any of this shite.
Clearly you have done the math and checked the stuff out and understand that YOUR rig is ok. Good. This doesnt apply to you. frick off.
Clearly you have done the math and checked the stuff out and understand that YOUR rig is ok. Good. This doesnt apply to you. frick off.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:40 am to Floyd Dawg
2026 F'250 HO Crewcab Platinum. (so I'm already losing payload)
No way I'd want to pull that rig and the extra stuff you'd need for an actual trip.
Towing stability would also be way better with a dually.
No way I'd want to pull that rig and the extra stuff you'd need for an actual trip.
Towing stability would also be way better with a dually.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:41 am to N2cars
quote:
Towing stability would also be way better with a dually.
and just think of the hefty set of truck nuts that baby could pack
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:43 am to BoogaBear
quote:
believe stated payload numbers on 3/4 ton trucks are bullshite due to regulations,
Kinda. On coil spring 3/4 ton rams they arent. Overload one and see how it handles it. Their heavier GVWR trucks have totally different frames and suspension.
On fords and Chevrolet, kinda. They're rated 10k gross so that fleets can operate them without CDLs. Ford and Chevy both offer GVWR packages over 10k now but they do come with different springs than the 10k trucks. They do have the same frames as far as I know. They dont sticker them to 10k and build them to handle 12k without some component changes, because it affects the ride quality and costs more. If your truck is stickered 10k/26k then you need to stick to that for more than just the legalities of it.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:44 am to BoogaBear
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they are much more capable than the sticker on the door
100% disagree.
All these manufacturers are competitive with one another and they know consumers make decisions based on hp, towing, mpg, etc.
There may be a small margin for error, but I doubt it's very much.
JMO, I'm never gonna approach the upper limits, by choice.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:46 am to 777Tiger
Cast.
Iron.
Makes that baby ride sweet, too.
Iron.
Makes that baby ride sweet, too.
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:50 am to BoogaBear
Quick googling suggests F250 vs F350 SRW may be heavier duty rear leaf spring pack/overload spring and a stronger rear axle. Not sure whether that's true for every year, true for 3/4 vs 1 ton in other makes, etc. Max tow may also upgrade those parts so the functional difference may be nil. At that point, the difference is that the 3/4 ton is artificially derated.
2100 lb empty pin weight with 3100 lb payload capacity, might technically be within limits if you have no passengers and an empty truck and fifth wheel. Doesn't sound like a good time though, towing an empty trailer alone.
Towing experience being a spectrum, when additional margin of safety and stability is available for relatively little cost upgrade, it seems to beg the question why so many people are proud of pulling these long heavy windsails that are fifth wheel trailers with a 3/4 ton when 1 tons SRW or DRW are available.
I wonder how much overlap there is with people who "level" their truck, raising the front end to match the unloaded height of the rear, and then complaining when the rear appears to sag lower with a trailer so then they airbag the rear.
2100 lb empty pin weight with 3100 lb payload capacity, might technically be within limits if you have no passengers and an empty truck and fifth wheel. Doesn't sound like a good time though, towing an empty trailer alone.
Towing experience being a spectrum, when additional margin of safety and stability is available for relatively little cost upgrade, it seems to beg the question why so many people are proud of pulling these long heavy windsails that are fifth wheel trailers with a 3/4 ton when 1 tons SRW or DRW are available.
I wonder how much overlap there is with people who "level" their truck, raising the front end to match the unloaded height of the rear, and then complaining when the rear appears to sag lower with a trailer so then they airbag the rear.
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