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re: Tornado outbreak, 94 dead, Upwards of 100 unaccounted for search/rescue & cleanup ongoing

Posted on 12/13/21 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 6:53 pm to
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they nearly bought the farm; anyway, said they had no idea weather was supposed to get bad; how is that possible?



They all had the phones turned off?
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1276 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:08 pm to
I started watching TV coverage of it when it was near Searcy, Arkansas; that's an hour and a half from the Tennessee/Kentucky border with Arkansas.

I cared because my family was in the path. It went about four miles to their west.

But ... when it went past them, it wasn't much. Just a rope, with a twin, according to pictures near Jonesboro, Arkansas.

As it got near Monette, Arkansas, though, it turned into a beast and was such for a long, long time afterward.
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1276 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:09 pm to
Just dont scrimp.

A woman in Mayflower, Arkansas, a few years back got one but put a substandard door on it. EF-4 came through. Door failed. She died.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66014 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:16 pm to
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Just dont scrimp.

A woman in Mayflower, Arkansas, a few years back got one but put a substandard door on it. EF-4 came through. Door failed. She died.

Get FEMA-approved plans, follow FEMA-approved plans. My neighbors actually built their in-home safe room themselves following plans. The door was the most expensive part, and the most difficult part of the build was installing it.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130111 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:20 pm to
You should see people from the Kentucky Baptist Convention. They should already be there providing food and support.

I'm not a Southern Baptist, but their Disaster response teams are legit.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:56 pm to
Here's a few aerial photograph of the super cell that produced the record-breaking Quad-State tornado. These were taken on a flight from Houston to Huntsville and were photographed while the storm was between Mayfield and Madisonville, KY.





Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66014 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:02 pm to
At around the 40ish minute mark on the WPSD coverage they completely lost the NWS chat. They could not get logged on. They could not see any reports. They could not read the discussion directly from the chat.

That shite has got to change. It is happening regularly now, and seems to only he getting worse. I know the chat was flooded because that was THE storm and THE only market active at that particular time, but the servers should be able to handle the traffic. This isn't a new issue. It has been complained about for a couple years now, maybe longer.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:12 pm to

Those pics are pretty impressive for using a phone in all liklihood. An example of why night storms are a bit of a freak out for many a man.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:12 pm to
Just saw an interview with a worker at the candle factory. Said they wasnt allowed to leave after the first siren.

Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
4109 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:19 pm to
Candle Factory from WPSD

Story says workers were threatened they would be fired if the left their shift early
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:27 pm to
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Story says workers were threatened they would be fired if the left their shift early




That's very bad if that is true.
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
4109 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:30 pm to
Bobby, you have no idea how shitty this place was. Drug addicts and alkies trying to earn drug money. Cars broken into. It was awful working conditions. The CEO doesn’t think it’s not the company’s fault. There was no shelter.

Some serious lawsuits, maybe even murder charges, are gonna fly.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65777 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:32 pm to
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There's no need to involve a middle man like the Red Cross in 2021.

In 2000 when the tornado ravaged my house and neighborhood, the Red Cross drove down our street giving out coffee out of a truck.
So, there's that.
Lol
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65777 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:39 pm to
Hear me out first....
The big problem with letting employees leave for every warning is that it will be seriously abused. Perhaps it had been allowed in the past, hence their policy last Friday.
99% of tornado warnings, even for those "in the polygon" amount to nothing.
So, if you let employees leave for every type weather warning, you'll lose a lot of production. Further, I guarantee that factory was probably a sturdier structure than a majority of the employees' homes.

All that being said, to me, it's a damned if you do and a definite damned if you don't.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Some serious lawsuits, maybe even murder charges, are gonna fly.



When I was training for a management job 20 years ago I was made aware of a local company that told an employee that called and stated he wanted to wait for a bad storm to pass before coming in to work. Management told him he had to come in. He was killed in a bad car accident in the middle of the storm. They may still be paying his family.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66014 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:45 pm to
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Story says workers were threatened they would be fired if the left their shift early

I read the NBC national article on that earlier. I almost posted it.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
18336 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:46 pm to
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In 2000 when the tornado ravaged my house and neighborhood, the Red Cross drove down our street giving out coffee out of a truck.
So, there's that.
Lol


RC fed me a few times after Laura. Gave me an entire case of water during those first couple days when water was Madonna hymen rare here. RC okay in my book.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:50 pm to
Wouldn't be a tornado event if Elmore county didn't put one on the board Friday.

Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
4109 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:51 pm to
I agree with you in theory, but word is they knew this monster was on the ground.

In 40 years, I’ve never thought I’d leave my house to go to a church basement. Never thought I’d text my Dad no matter what happens, I love you. I know what you’re saying and I don’t disagree, but businesses closed all over town like 3 hours beforehand. When you got a Torcon of 7, I mean c’mon.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66014 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:52 pm to
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The big problem with letting employees leave for every warning is that it will be seriously abused. Perhaps it had been allowed in the past, hence their policy last Friday.

There are also policies in place that won't allow workers to leave in such instances as active warnings.

I was at work on April 27, 2011. I worked seconds, 4-12. The warning for the Hackleburg/Phil Campbell storm got extended into the county/city where I worked. We were told to take our emergency precautions. For our part of the plant, that meant we stood out on the dock and watched the storm cross the river from around 3 miles to the Southeast. That's neither here nor there.

After that warning was allowed to expire we immediately went under another. At that point we were listening to radio coverage from our vehicles that we had pulled under cover from hail, power was out.

Company policy was that no one left with an active warning. The gates were locked. That policy was overridden by the plant manager and we were told we could leave if we wanted.

Most of us didn't return for more than a full week.

That said, the candle factory is a bit different because there was a lull between their first warning and the warning for the long tracked storm. They had time to leave.
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