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Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:42 pm to
so what’s the “treatment” for this?

I don’t think everyone just telling you your crazy everyday is going to get the best outcome.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87385 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:44 pm to
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so what’s the “treatment” for this?

I don’t think everyone just telling you your crazy everyday is going to get the best outcome.


Perhaps if the medical industry would focus on that instead of ostracizing anyone who says "hey maybe men can't get pregnant just like the entirety of human history has believed for eons" we'd get some answers here eventually.

I'm sure you can acknowledge that when you have ideological advocates as practitioners it doesn't really leave the door open for other solutions.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:49 pm to
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You keep saying “treatment” and right now this is the treatment.
Ignoring a problem isn’t treating it.

Promoting it not only isn’t treating it, it’s confirming their delusion that they don’t need treatment at all.

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You just want them to go away.
Look in a mirror, that’s your position. Mine is wanting them to face their illness and get treatment for it. I wouldn’t tell a cancer patient they should ignore their disease either. These people are sick, they need help, not told they’re perfectly fine.

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How people is 100% up to you, not an abstract concept of reality.
One of us has been talking about reality. Hint….its not you.

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so you can be as pleasant as you want to be. you’re making a choice not to.
I choose to tell them the truth. Unpleasant truths rarely come across with a delicious frosting on top.

I don’t let them run from it, you do.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158004 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:49 pm to
Did I say I think you wanted to do that?

I said you are free to do that all you wish.

Dress or no dress for you. IDGAF

If you did put a dress on and didn’t tell me how would I know anyway?

Do what you like.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:49 pm to
quote:


I don’t think everyone just telling you your crazy everyday is going to get the best outcome.


Telling third graders that changing gender is healthy for them isnt the best outcome either.


Most kids would never know or care about gender bullshite if adults didnt push it on them.


This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 1:50 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158004 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

what’s the “treatment” for this?


Any doctor that tried to treat it as a mental illness would be mobbed by the SJW Klan.

They don’t want it treated. They don’t even want it studied honestly.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:53 pm to
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They don’t want it treated. They don’t even want it studied honestly.


"Affirming" is what they want They realize its insane too, which is why they need recognition that they are normal.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 1:54 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Perhaps if the medical industry would focus on that instead of ostracizing anyone who says "hey maybe men can't get pregnant just like the entirety of human history has believed for eons" we'd get some answers here eventually.
It is like abortion or immigration; the political capital that can be had fighting over the issue is much more appealing than solving the issue
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:57 pm to
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I choose to tell them the truth. Unpleasant truths rarely come across with a delicious frosting on top. I don’t let them run from it, you do.


What’s your end game though?

Have you done any research into alternative treatments, do they have better outcomes?

Like I said, I don’t think you care about these people, you just don’t like them and want them to go away.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Telling third graders that changing gender is healthy for them isnt the best outcome either.


Agreed. thats way too young.

what about adults.

Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10623 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:59 pm to
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You keep saying “treatment” and right now this is the treatment.


Treatment is reversing or limiting the condition not pushing it further or cause permanent harm and/or mutilate their body. That’s child abuse, and you seem to support it.

A male can wear a dress, act feminine, and also be gay. A girl can be a tomboy. Why do you support permanently harming these kids (and forcing other kids to have deal with this illness in bathrooms, lockers, and showers) over getting help to affirm and accept their natural biological sex like everybody else while allowing natural adolescent development to occur?

Studies both here and in Europe have shown most grow out of this if allowed. I know why other alphabets and elitist Dems want to permanently harm these kids and not allow natural development, but why do you?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Like I said, I don’t think you care about these people, you just don’t like them and want them to go away.


Them, along with their parent(s) that helped make them this way are both a nuisance and cost the US taxpayer more money.

That is not an opinion.

Have a good weekend.

Smile.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
2627 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 2:00 pm to
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which means this young man should have been in a mental institution and not at a school


Yeah, I agree, but we kind of closed most of those down and now we have hordes of mental ill people homeless in the streets.

We as a country suck so hard at handling mental illness despite all the "awareness" we push. Our main strategy seems to be to celebrate them in public while ignoring or attacking (verbally) in private.

People who identify as trans have it possibly the worst. Select groups want to pride them around as if they are heroes while the opposite lashes out at the trans person along with their handlers.

When we find out why that quiet girl always wears long sleeves in the summer, we don't attack her for being a freak and call her mentally ill. We hug her, tell her we are there for her, and we try to get her help.

Instead this boy, who has clearly cried out for help multiple times through his actions, is either told he needs to stop complaining because there is nothing wrong with him or he is told he is a monster who should be put down or thrown in jail. Then we act shocked when he finally snaps mentally and attacks the next person who harassed him.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Them, along with their parent(s) that helped make them this way are both a nuisance and cost the US taxpayer more money.


wut?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14294 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 2:05 pm to
No need for the attitude, it was just a question
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Treatment is reversing or limiting the condition not pushing it further or cause permanent harm and/or mutilate their body. That’s child abuse, and you seem to support it.


Reversing or limiting a condition isn’t a treatment it’s a goal. How do you get there. BecUse affirmative wasn’t always the norm, and I dont think psychotherapy to try and align them with the biological features was working.

And again, let’s just talk about adults. Literally all of these arguments apply to trans adults too.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 2:07 pm to
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wut?


His statement was pretty clear. Which part went over your head?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 2:09 pm to
quote:


what about adults.


Its their choice, I choose not to participate in their delusion.

I refuse the pronouns.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 2:10 pm to
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What’s your end game though?


Not to participate in any way.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87385 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

And again, let’s just talk about adults. Literally all of these arguments apply to trans adults too.


You know a lot of post-op trans people living successful, stable, productive lives free of crippling mental illness?

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