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Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:44 am to
Children cannot legally sign a contract because they're deemed to lack the capacity to understand it. That's centuries of Common Law in every country within the Anglosphere. But yet there are people who argue that a child has the capacity to undergo a sex change, hormone therapy or puberty blockers.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:44 am to
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Do you mean the “information” you brought from the ADA saying puberty blockers and hormones should be given to kids going through puberty.


should? it said they CANNOT get on them until well into puberty, and that's after countless evaluations and diagnosis. like try to read just once

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The other “information” you brought was that puberty blockers are reversible.

I simply pointed out that’s been proven false. You can ignore that fact. But the fact still remains. The only question is do you want to cling to the false narrative of the leftist pro-trans movement or do you want to accept reality?


no, you provided one study that spoke on bone density. I provided a link from the medical authority of the country in which your study was conducted which said similar, but also that they are advised to be physically reversible.

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Although GIDS advises this is a physically reversible treatment if stopped, it is not known what the psychological effects may be.

It's also not known whether hormone blockers affect the development of the teenage brain or children's bones. Side effects may also include hot flushes, fatigue and mood alterations.


here's a study saying they're safe
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 9:46 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:44 am to
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, if this was in a strip club with women barely covering their nipples as kids throw dollar bills at them, you’d think that’s appropriate?

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:45 am to
I don’t know what’s more sad. (1) TH03 dying on the hill of defending pedos wanting to trans the kids, or (2) the fact a worthless junkie felon turned message board troll is making a pathetic attempt to white knight for him.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:45 am to
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:48 am to
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Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:48 am to
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You’ve already done so in this thread.


because bringing facts you don't agree with clearly means I'm a pedo.

it's hilarious how emotional y'all are getting just because you don't like things that challenge your narrative.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:49 am to
"pay no attention, but reply to him 3 posts in a row"

you're doing great, champ
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:49 am to
You say it is reversible and normal progression will continue then you go on to list all kinds of side effects that don't seem normal or reversable. And it even lists things that are "not known" about the drugs long term.

Jesus man.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73902 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:51 am to
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should? it said they CANNOT get on them until well into puberty, and that's after countless evaluations and diagnosis. like try to read just once


A lot of kids are “well into” puberty before they turn 14. The fact you’re still defending this tells me all I need to know about you. You’re sick.

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no, you provided one study that spoke on bone density. I provided a link from the medical authority of the country in which your study was conducted which said similar, but also that they are advised to be physically reversible.


Bone density is pretty important, dumbfrick. How’d you like to be in your 20s and already having to deal with osteoporosis? Also, I noticed you seem to have failed to grasp the importance of this statement from your own link…

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it is not known what the psychological effects may be.

It's also not known whether hormone blockers affect the development of the teenage brain or children's bones.


It takes a special sort of indoctrination coupled with a high degree of stupidity to believe it’s ok to give these drugs to children when there a serious, lifelong effects that could impact the kid for the rest of their life. Again, you’re sick.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:51 am to
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You say it is reversible and normal progression will continue then you go on to list all kinds of side effects that don't seem normal or reversable. And it even lists things that are "not known" about the drugs long term.

Jesus man.


yeah dude, I'm the NHS of the entire UK. I wrote it all.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:54 am to
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It takes a special sort of indoctrination coupled with a high degree of stupidity to believe it’s ok to give these drugs to children when there a serious, lifelong effects that could impact the kid for the rest of their life. Again, you’re sick.


and if they kill themselves because darth said "just be a fricking man, I didn't have a damn daughter"? well at least they didn't wear a dress

y'all seem to think biden is just driving around grabbing up kids and shoving them full of hormones
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Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77466 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:57 am to
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no, you provided one study that spoke on bone density. I provided a link from the medical authority of the country in which your study was conducted which said similar, but also that they are advised to be physically reversible.
There is no evidence that they are reversible because there are minimal studies that are performed that result in individuals coming off the medications.

There is a reason for that too.

If you truly believe puberty blockers will help gender dysphoria, you have an ethical issue with withholding them from someone who is deemed “in need”.

On top of that, nearly every study performed involving puberty blockers has an extremely low number of individuals who decide to not move onto cross sex hormones.
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Those who start “transitioning” to the other sex may “persist” or “desist.” Persisters go on to transition. Desisters choose to stop and accept their biological sex. A 2013 article cited studies of 246 children with gender dysphoria. Of those, 207 desisted before being treated with puberty blockers. The same article reported a more recent study of 127 children. Of those, 80 chose not to begin puberty blockers. So 287 (77 percent) of 373 children desisted before treatment. Reversibility was not an issue for them.
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What about after starting treatment? A 2018 study at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam reported 333 adolescents who started on puberty blockers. All except 6 (1.9 percent) went on to take cross-sex hormones. The study did not report the ages at which the 6 desisted. Were they still within the normal range of puberty onset? What were their lives like afterwards? We simply don’t know.
No one followed up.
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A 2020 study looked at 269 children and adolescents registered at the Curium-Leiden University gender clinic in the Netherlands. Of these, 143 (38 boys and 105 girls) started treatment with GnRHa. The youngest boy to start was 11. The youngest girl was 10. Of the original 143, 125 (87 percent) later moved directly from GnRHa to cross-sex hormones.
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The 2020 study did follow up on those who did not move directly from GnRHa to cross-sex hormones. Most of them were not really desisters. Instead, they pursued alternate routes to transition. Only five (4 girls and 1 boy) no longer wanted cross-sex treatment. Combining the numbers from 2018 and 2020, there were 11 desisters out of 476 children who started on puberty blockers (about 2 percent).
Eleven.

Eleven out of 476.

We simply have no data on this because of a combination of “selecting” a certain population to perform the studies and the unethical nature of simply experimenting on children, a population that cannot consent.

There is no data showing that it is “completely reversible”.
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Given the lack of evidence, British pediatrician Christopher Richards and two others wrote in 2019 that puberty blockers for gender dysphoric children are a “momentous step in the dark.” Since almost all children who start on them go on to take cross-sex hormones, it seems that the “completely reversible” claim is exaggerated.
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In October 2020, a British High Court agreed that “the vast majority” of children receiving puberty blockers “proceed to the use of cross-sex hormones.” These have “potential life changing consequences for a child.” So “it is highly unlikely that a child aged 13 or under would be competent to give consent.” It is also “doubtful that a child aged 14 or 15 could understand and weigh the long-term risks and consequences.” The British National Health Service immediately stopped offering puberty blockers to children under 16.
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The bottom line is that, in practice, puberty blockers do not delay the momentous decision to transition to the other sex. In almost every case, they are the momentous decision. For children with gender dysphoria, blocking puberty is not just buying time. It is more like a point of no return.
LINK

This is an absolute unknown direction we are heading in.

And y’all are going full speed ahead without question.

This entire concept is simply experimentation on children.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 10:01 am
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted by Riolobo
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Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:03 am to
Exactly, this is 100% on the parents. Very scary we have adults raising their kids like this
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:04 am to
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:11 am to
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Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:14 am to
maybe the kid is smarter than the drag queen and he is gonna hook his honeys up with some new threads. hustling early. I like it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139014 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:15 am to
The science is settled you qanon lunatic!

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