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re: Toddler, 3, is snatched and eaten by leopard at safari park in Uganda

Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:44 pm to
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It’s the size of the human that’s so tempting to the cats, not simply that it’s a human

Easy meal, not just a meal


Exactly. Just as a leopard will attack a wildebeest calf but maybe not a full grown bull, same thing here. We have to remember that to the Leopard the fact it was a human child didn’t factor into the equation at all. The leopard just saw an easy meal and took it. And now that leopard has had a successful hunt here, it sees this area as a place where it can possibly find another meal.
Posted by studentsect
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:47 pm to
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The part we disagree with is I don't think it will view humans as a better option than gazelle or whatever other prey it typically hunts.



But why though? Why wouldn't it think that easy prey was easy?

Do you think catching a gazelle is easier?

Do you think leopards have no ability to distinguish an easy thing from a difficult thing based on past experience? Because that seems to be what you are saying here.

Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:47 pm to
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the fact it was a human child didn’t factor into the equation at all


now you are making my point
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:48 pm to
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Cats will eat anything that moves.


I wish

A friend has several cats and any bugs that wander in get ignored instead of eaten.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:50 pm to
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We have to remember that to the Leopard the fact it was a human child didn’t factor into the equation at all. The leopard just saw an easy meal and took it


so the cat didnt learn anything

this was innate behavior
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:50 pm to
Sorry a dingo ate ya baby






Wait
Posted by studentsect
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:52 pm to
Let's make this simple.

You have 2 leopards, and each has a fake human child placed in front of it. #1 gets close and is hit with an electric current. #2 is able to approach, discovers that the fake child is actually prime tenderloin, and the leopard is allowed to eat/take the meal as it pleases.

Same 2 leopards, plus a third who was not part of the first experiment, are then placed in a situation where each is shown a human child. Which is most likely to approach and try to eat it first?

If your answer is leopard #2, then you should understand why this leopard needs to be killed.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:53 pm to
meh

maybe people shouldnt allow the kid to be in that situation
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:55 pm to
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But why though?


nutritional value

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Do you think catching a gazelle is easier?


No but gazelles are prey for big cats...it's instinctive for them to hunt them

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Do you think leopards have no ability to distinguish an easy thing from a difficult thing based on past experience?


of course they do and i think this leopard and any other big cat would kill a toddler if they were hungry, hell maybe even if they weren't, and the opportunity presented itself.

Do you think leopards have learned porcupines don't make good meals?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:55 pm to
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no my point is the leopard did what a leopard does. I'm not convinced the leopard would return to the park looking for kids over the prey it has survived on its entire life.


Actually, due to the fact it was so easy for him to get this prey, he will almost assuredly return to see if he can do it again.

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The part we disagree with is I don't think it will view humans as a better option than gazelle or whatever other prey it typically hunts.


Again, it’s about learned behavior. Yes the leopard can kill a gazelle, at least one he can catch. But to do so requires expending a lot of precious energy. Taking down this kid though I’m sure was quite quick and easy. This also can factor into the leopard returning to where it got this kid.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:57 pm to
He knew de way
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Let's make this simple.

You have 2 leopards, and each has a fake human child placed in front of it. #1 gets close and is hit with an electric current. #2 is able to approach, discovers that the fake child is actually prime tenderloin, and the leopard is allowed to eat/take the meal as it pleases.

Same 2 leopards, plus a third who was not part of the first experiment, are then placed in a situation where each is shown a human child. Which is most likely to approach and try to eat it first?

If your answer is leopard #2, then you should understand why this leopard needs to be killed.




of course it would be leopard #2 or #3

ok lets make this more realistic...how about 2 kids and not actually fake kids that are actually prime tenderloin...i would say leopard #3 would most likely attack first.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:59 pm to
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so the cat didnt learn anything


But it did learn something, namely that in this area it can find small, slow, prey unable to fight back. Again, the cat doesn’t care that it was a human child. It could have been the family dog as far as it cares. The point here is that this particular leopard now sees the area where it got this kid as a good place to hunt and it sees children as easy prey.
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 2:16 pm to
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he will almost assuredly return to see if he can do it again.


of course but how many times had the cat passed there without getting a meal or how many times has he successfully found his typical prey near the village?

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it’s about learned behavior.


ok so how many times does the leopard have to visit the village and not see toddlers available to eat to learn it is not a location to get his meals? Do you think leopards hunt areas that don't produce or ones that do?
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 2:40 pm to
3 is bigger than a toddler. At 3 you are old enough to smoke

Posted by Swoopin
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 2:45 pm to
Well, let’s show our wild side and kill the leopard

Wouldn’t it be “natural” of Homo sapiens, or any animal with the appropriate means available to them, to kill an adversary picking off their herd?
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 2:55 pm to
This a sad story but the 1st two replies did a great job of getting a laugh out of me still. Good job gentlemen.
Posted by the LSUSaint
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:25 am to
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By that logic, shouldn’t humans do what humans do? And simply destroy something we don’t like despite the reason or fault?

I think that goes both ways


We have a concious, wild animals do not
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:29 am to
I defer to Gary Larson on this as this is how the leopard viewed the toddler and will view other toddlers in the future based on hunting success.

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:32 am to
How many “cute” zoo videos are there of big cats of all kinds jumping at the glass to “play” with a child or toddler? Think there was even a video of the late Mike pawing at his glass and licking when a child was posed for a picture? “Aww how cute!” Nope. He’s tasting your kid.

Big cats either HATE children or love them as a snack.
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