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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Underwater noises detected during search for missing Titanic submersible
So if the submersible can't dive by itself and is connected to another ship, how can't they bring it back up?
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The Coast Guard’s First District reported early Wednesday that a Canadian P-3 aircraft detected underwater noises in the area where crews are looking for the missing Titan submersible and operations were redirected there. Those efforts “have yielded negative results but continue,” the Coast Guard tweeted.
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The Navy dispatched a system — the Flyaway Deep Ocean Salvage System — designed to haul up objects the size of planes and small vessels from the deep ocean floor, a spokesperson said, but it isn’t clear whether the backing band of other specialized technology required to operate is available.
So if the submersible can't dive by itself and is connected to another ship, how can't they bring it back up?
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:59 am to MaxxPain2
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Im trying to wrap my mind around the sub "imploding" and the sheer physics and violence but its difficult.
Gasman explain this to us...
Sudden decompression of pressure vessels is violent beyond imagination.
This one was just for funsies:
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:01 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:02 am to dukeg7213
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So if the submersible can't dive by itself and is connected to another ship, how can't they bring it back up?
They're boating in two 6,000KG winch reels currently. They departed around midnight last night from St. John's NF.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:04 am to SloaneRanger
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If God has any mercy at all
It doesn’t
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:04 am to dr
quote:If so, 5-1=4 folks consuming oxygen.
sure would be hard not to beat the guy (owner) to death as you sit on the bottom of the ocean
You get ~20% more time to breathe.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:06 am to saint tiger225
?????
how are obvious facts, rearranged narratives, changing stories, and the slow drip of info coming out not suspect?
trumps fault? he broke my brain?
so, then
please explain the vastness of your wisdom regarding this
please
how are obvious facts, rearranged narratives, changing stories, and the slow drip of info coming out not suspect?
trumps fault? he broke my brain?
so, then
please explain the vastness of your wisdom regarding this
please
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:07 am to soccerfüt
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If so, 5-1=4 folks consuming oxygen.
You get ~20% more time to breathe.
energy expended knuckle checking old baw would eat in to remaining oxygen quite a bit
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:08 am to LegendInMyMind
christ on a cracker
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:10 am to MaxxPain2
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christ on a cracker
That was a controlled, intentional collapse. Every variable that was possible to control was accounted for.
The depths of the ocean that sub was operating in are capable of much worse.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:11 am to LegendInMyMind
My question is if the tube was compromised, would there have been time for the occupants to realize it or would a tiny rupture have immediately destroyed everything in a split second?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:12 am to idlewatcher
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They're boating in two 6,000KG winch reels currently. They departed around midnight last night from St. John's NF.
that's what, about 400 miles? doing at best about 20kts?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:12 am to idlewatcher
not sure if serious or not as im completely ignorant to this but i thought i read it was connected to another ship and was being controlled by that. how did they lose connection?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:15 am to Damone
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If God has any mercy at all
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It doesn’t
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Damone
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:16 am to Damone
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My question is if the tube was compromised, would there have been time for the occupants to realize it or would a tiny rupture have immediately destroyed everything in a split second?
With that pressure, immediately
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:16 am to Damone
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My question is if the tube was compromised, would there have been time for the occupants to realize it or would a tiny rupture have immediately destroyed everything in a split second?
i would think it would be instant, but an outer window on the Trieste, which was the first submersible to explore the Mariana Trench, cracked before they even reached the bottom... they decided to continue going, made it to the bottom, explored for a bit, then came back up...
so basically, i don't know...
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:19 am to Damone
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My question is if the tube was compromised, would there have been time for the occupants to realize it or would a tiny rupture have immediately destroyed everything in a split second?
It would depend. A significant failure and they would have never known what happened. A crack to a window, another small, undetected flaw that gradually worsened to failure could have given them some warning.
The original submersible that went to Challenger Deep, the Trieste, suffered a crack to an acrylic window while on descent. One of the guys in it said they knew they were fine because they heard the crack. You will never hear the one that kills you.
ETA: Wanna talk about balls? They found the source of the sound by turning off all light inside the sub and shining flashlights out of the window. They would both agree that the noticeable crack on the window was nothing to worry about and decide to continue their mission.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:20 am to 777Tiger
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that's what, about 400 miles? doing at best about 20kts?
Believe I read at 18 knots.
Regardless, they'll arrive when their O2 supply runs out. Hope for the best regardless
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:20 am to chRxis
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My question is if the tube was compromised, would there have been time for the occupants to realize it or would a tiny rupture have immediately destroyed everything in a split second?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:24 am to dukeg7213
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not sure if serious or not as im completely ignorant to this but i thought i read it was connected to another ship and was being controlled by that. how did they lose connection?
They weren't directly connected via tether. They were connected wirelessly.
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