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re: Time for Louisiana to do away with TOPS

Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:39 pm to
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what? my points are literally the same


Not at all
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I'm done. You literally just keep ignoring my posts and saying the same nonsense over and over again, despite my posts saying otherwise.

Kbaiiiiiiii. Just remember, as long as I get mine, I’m cool with it
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:42 pm to
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By definition, welfare is the government grant any amount of money to any person or company that typically has some form of requirement


welfare, by definition, has never been "merit based"

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Not at all


pretty convenient you to claim this

why would I change my view on this from 30 minutes ago?

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Just remember, as long as I get mine, I’m cool with it


if it means you get to keep more of your own money, I'm cool with it

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37717 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:45 pm to
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why would I change my view on this from 30 minutes ago?


You certainly were calling my a tax loving son of a gun over there
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if it means giving a bunch of money to the govt to get a little bit back, I'm cool with it


Fify.
Posted by cooLStorybreaUx
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:46 pm to
170th Downvote.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:47 pm to
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You certainly were calling my a tax loving son of a gun over there


because you don't support people getting their tax money back

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if it means giving a bunch of money to the govt to get a little bit back, I'm cool with it


once again just completely ignoring all of my posts to the contrary

pretty cringey
Posted by LSUGolfman
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:47 pm to
you've already said that three or four times. Is there a parrot in here?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:47 pm to
My kids aren’t going to college in Louisiana
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37717 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:49 pm to
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because you don't support people getting their tax money back


I support them KEEPING their money
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pretty cringey

I agree. It sure is cringey af that you keep calling me a tax loving son of a gun
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:50 pm to
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As the father of two school aged children
congrats on da sex
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:50 pm to
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I support them KEEPING their money


Cool! me too!

so in the meantime, why don't you support them getting their money back until that becomes actual reality?

how is this not making sense to you?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37717 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:52 pm to
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so in the meantime, why don't you support them getting their money back until that becomes actual reality?


Link?
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how is this not making sense to you?

How is my hatred of all entitlements and welfare programs somehow making me pro tax not making sense to me? Well. Hell. I couldn’t imagine why.
Posted by rmcelh1
Shreveport
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:53 pm to
We should send Texas the bill for TOPS since most graduate and head that way.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:57 pm to
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Link?


this entire thread

unless you want to claim that calling TOPS a welfare program is somehow you supporting it

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How is my hatred of all entitlements and welfare programs somehow making me pro tax not making sense to me?


because, under our current reality, you don't support people getting their own money back

you just keep talking about how it should be, and I 100% agree with you, but that isn't how it is, so I don't understand the point of continually bringing it up
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37717 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:01 pm to
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this entire thread unless you want to claim that calling TOPS a welfare program is somehow you supporting it


So... let me connect the dots in your reasoning....

You think that because I’m against the tops program, that means I fault people using it and this somehow makes me for higher taxes?

Holy logic leap Batman.

Well. Let’s see here. I’m 100% against the program in its entirety. Just as I’m against all welfare and entitlement program. However, that doesn’t mean that I fault people for doing something that is in their best interest. I don’t hate the players, I hate the game.

Now, how that relates to me somehow liking taxes? I still have no idea how that tangent came into play.

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because, under our current reality, you don't support people getting their own money back


Link to where I said this. You ASSUME this.

It is possible to hate the game, not the player.

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you just keep talking about how it should be, and I 100% agree with you, but that isn't how it is, so I don't understand the point of continually bringing it up

So you’re chock full of assumptions.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:02 pm to
Louisiana is going to sink cause global warming so it is okay to end the program. No need to educate people that will leave the state.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Why not work on fixing the reason people are leaving?


That ship has sailed. The demographics have passed the tipping point and I am not talking about race.

Do you even need a college degree to be a plant baw? TOPS doesn't cover Law School for all these ambulance chasers. Those are the only two industries booming here.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:09 pm to
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Link to where I said this. You ASSUME this.

It is possible to hate the game, not the player.


You are right. By your tone and continuing trying to force the welfare definition onto TOPS, I did assume that was your position.

If that isn't, then I'm wrong and we probably agree on this subject almost entirely

except that TOPS isn't welfare
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:10 pm to
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because, under our current reality, you don't support people getting their own money back


But do we get our money back? If the program costs more than it is worth then won't that result in higher state taxes?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:13 pm to
TOPS absolutely need to be re-worked to be sustainable
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