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TIL: the phrase “pie in the sky” was coined by communists against the Salvation Army

Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:28 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69305 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:28 am
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This phrase was coined by the Swedish-American activist, Joe Hill in 1911 when criticizing the Salvation Army’s philosophy especially their concentration on saving the souls of the hungry rather than feeding them. He used it in one of his songs while leading a radical labour organization.


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The phrase is originally from the song “The Preacher and the Slave” (1911) by Swedish-American labor activist and songwriter Joe Hill (1879–1915), which he wrote as a parody of the Salvation Army hymn “In the Sweet By-and-By” (published 1868). The song criticizes the Salvation Army for focusing on people’s salvation rather than on their material needs:[1]

You will eat, bye and bye,
In that glorious land above the sky;
Work and pray, live on hay,
You’ll get pie in the sky when you die.
Posted by RuckMaul1
Member since Sep 2022
299 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:47 am to
your opinions all suck, but this is an interesting point
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:45 am to
Great post! I had never heard that.

Joe didn’t know that man does not live by bread alone.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71130 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:04 am to
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Joe didn’t know that man does not live by bread alone.


Also didn't know that the Salvation Army feeds people and the Communist Party starves them.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37760 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:06 am to
Joe Hill was a lazy piece of shite communist. What's a shame is you can't frame lazy piece of shite communists for murder then blast em to hell by a firing squad like back in the good old days.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37527 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:05 am to
I thought the Salvation Army was communist. Well, I learned something today
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44859 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:22 am to
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What's a shame is you can't frame lazy piece of shite communists for murder then blast em to hell by a firing squad like back in the good old days.


Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90629 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:55 am to
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The song criticizes the Salvation Army for focusing on people’s salvation rather than on their material needs:[


I didn’t know that was their original intent. I always assumed salvation part of the name was because they salvage all of our unwanted items
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28382 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:48 am to
And now the commies have taken over the Salvation Army.

Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27238 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:52 am to
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And now the commies have taken everything.



FIFY
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52705 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:57 am to
quote:

What's a shame is you can't frame lazy piece of shite communists for murder then blast em to hell by a firing squad like back in the good old days.




Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
577 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:02 pm to
Sort of interesting trivia, but the Salvation Army was the only effective and helpful organization doing anything of value after Hurricane Katrina when the need was beyond reasonable and other groups were too busy squabbling and whining to do anything. I saw them under Causeway and I-10 in Metairie as they were giving food and water, coordinating emergency medical care, organizing transport under awful conditions and all with a great heart.
Far from pie in the sky, they were seriously helping.
That was effective Christian love in action.
They earned my undying respect during those days.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69305 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141988 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:36 pm to
I happened to be thinking about the phrase and Joe Hill last night



Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141988 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:37 pm to
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And now the commies have taken over the Salvation Army
let's pray they never take over The Salvation Navy
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12243 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:06 pm to
Joe Hill was A Wobblie (iWW) and was dead before the Bolshevik revolution.
IWW disassociated itself from the Communists.
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