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re: Thousands protest in Cuba, calling for the end of communist dictatorship

Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:34 pm to
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It's certainly a large first step.


No it isn't stop fueling fear mongering bs
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Government-run entities in America are almost always the worst option for everyone and that's not even a debate.

Your opinion is not objective
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6692 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Love how you just brush aside police and fire,
I wish I could.

I would STRONGLY prefer private police and fire.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50576 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:36 pm to
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It's our vaccines that are the world standard against Covid - developed by our "big evil pharma" industries.

And here you lack the fundamental misunderstanding as to why it ranks so low. Quality wise it's the best but that doesn't mean shite when it's so damn expensive. Newsflash just because it's uniquely American does not always mean it's the best way
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Government-run entities in America are almost always the worst option for everyone and that's not even a debate.


Your opinion is not objective



Not sure how you can look at the state of our infrastructure, postal service, and public education system and think "yep...I'm sure it will be different with medicine".
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10484 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:37 pm to
Have you ever lived in a country with socialized health care?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60395 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:38 pm to
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just like the police, military, fire department, public roads, social security, are also forms of socialism.
so you don't know what socialism is. Got it.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83502 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:38 pm to
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And here you lack the fundamental misunderstanding as to why it ranks so low. Quality wise it's the best but that doesn't mean shite when it's so damn expensive. Newsflash just because it's uniquely American does not always mean it's the best way



Ah the classic solution of making it shittier for everyone

That's called equity, class
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50576 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:41 pm to
It's almost like decades of neglect and lack of funding have caused this to occur
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50576 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:42 pm to
Blue i can guarantee you have no idea what socialism is and just use it as a buzzword
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83502 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:43 pm to
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lack of funding have caused this to occur


oh i know you're not talking about public schools
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:45 pm to
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And here you lack the fundamental misunderstanding as to why it ranks so low.


I know exactly why it ranks low among people that are pushing for a government solution.

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Quality wise it's the best but that doesn't mean shite when it's so damn expensive.


It works well for me. And that quality is something I'm not willing to give up. Someone in the world has to drive innovation while everyone else is worried about dumbing everything down out of fairness and equality.

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Newsflash just because it's uniquely American does not always mean it's the best way


It's not perfect, but it's the best way for us. And our contribution to world health has been astounding this year, as 3 American companies have produced the gold standard in vaccines against the novel Coronovirus that has killed millions.

You don't see Cuba, Venezuela, or even Canada leading the way despite having a far more "equitable" healthcare system under government control. China is busy shipping sugar water to nations that are desperate for a vaccine. Russia is still floundering.

The only ones that have come close is UK-based AstraZeneca, who earn $ billions every year in the highly lucrative American pharmaceutical market and are geared to be cutting edge and competitive.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50576 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:46 pm to
There some very good public schools and some very poor public schools lot's of that has to do with how the local area funds the schools. Obviously the worst schools are in the poorest of areas. Wouldn't really be the case with healthcare as we have mounds of evidence from other countries to point to
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:47 pm to
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It's almost like decades of neglect and lack of funding have caused this to occur





Louisiana has some of the highest per-pupil spending of any state...yet ranks in the lowest tier in public schools.

Our public school network in general is a "one size fits all" approach that can't handle students outside of the norm. It's a complete failure, and it's particularly bad in larger cities where there is a wide variety of students with a wide variety of needs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281900 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:48 pm to
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Blue i can guarantee you have no idea what socialism is


Aint this rich. From the guy who claims Bernie is not a socialist, when Bernie called himself a socialist.

The economy of Cuba is socialist.
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137016 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:50 pm to
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Your opinion is not objective

Would you rather have your own healthcare or be 100% reliant on the VA and their facilities?

Would you rather have your own retirement plan or be 100% reliant on SS?

Would you rather send an important package via USPS or FedEx?

Would you like the most important aspects of your life and you family's well being in your hands or in the hands of people that run the DMV?

Stop being so ridiculous. You know that large, lumbering, unaccountable bureaucracies are detrimental to overall quality of life vs private entities. Public option only healthcare in the US would be an absolute unmitigated disaster and you know it.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:50 pm to
I knew this thread would bother you comrade
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281900 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:50 pm to
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It's almost like decades of neglect and lack of funding have caused this to occur


The uninformed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281900 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:51 pm to
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I knew this thread would bother you comrade


Socialists are embarrassed of what socialism really is, but it bugs the shite out of them when you point out it has never worked.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281900 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:52 pm to
Most Americans health care would suffer under socialized medicine.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137016 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Obviously the worst schools are in the poorest of areas.

New Jersey spent the most per student out of any other state in the US and they were nowhere near the top in terms of performance.
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Wouldn't really be the case with healthcare as we have mounds of evidence from other countries to point to

The amount of fraud we would have every year for universal Healthcare would probably equal the total GDP of all third world nations on the planet.
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