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re: This map isn't surprising, but it still is insane to me. Saw it on twitter today.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:44 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:44 pm to northshorebamaman
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Well, they got more love than they could handle in the 20th century.
Watching the Berlin Wall come down was a pretty cool moment.
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:51 pm to jimmy the leg
My wife's first husband was a German guy. His grandfather was an SS man who may have been killed on the eastern front but they suspect he started over with a new identity. At any rate they never heard from him again. His mother was a young child during the war. As an adult she was a schizophrenic who was in and out of institutions. My wife didn't realize until after she married him how screwed up he is, which apparently is true of a lot of his generation.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why does the map look familiar?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:04 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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But...luckily he is an incompetent invisible man that only lives in people's head.
Enjoy hell.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
you know that is because they really weren’t allowed to have religion so it bred out.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:11 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Why did religion die in East Germany, when it thrived in Poland?
What was different?
The Catholic Church fostered a form of nationalism in Poles that it couldn't in Germany. The Germans weren't a unified empire until after the American Civil War. Even then, vast regions of Germany had been Protestant for 3 centuries. The Protestant ethos isn't conducive to nationalism.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:15 pm to SCLibertarian
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The Protestant ethos isn't conducive to nationalism.
That’s an interesting idea - why not?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:35 pm to Lima Whiskey
It's too much of an individualistic philosophy. In fact, the reason for the extreme decentralization of Germany and Austria until the 19th century was the Peace of Westphalia, which granted the Imperial States of the Holy Roman Empire the right to determine their own religion. The Protestants weren't fighting to impose the Lutheran or Calvinist doctrine on the Hapsburg Dynasty, but rather the freedom to practice said faiths within their states. The early history of Protestant struggles in Europe I think makes it more distrustful of the state, whereas Catholicism was in essence the state (or a state within a state) for centuries in many areas of Europe.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:43 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Why did religion die in East Germany, when it thrived in Poland?
What was different?
Martín Luther
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Religion is not a big deal in most of Europe, it was explained to me this way, there was so much suffering in two WWs there can't be a good. Not much religion in Australia either.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:08 pm to tigergirl10
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I will never understand anyone who doesn’t believe in God. God is nothing but love.
Nothing says love like when kids have to go through horrible shite or when parents lose a young child.
Love is just an emotion produced by our brain, like fear or excitement.
I don't know if there is a higher power or not, but I completely understand why people question or don't believe.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:10 pm to OweO
answer my question
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:12 pm to OweO
lets fight
settle this for once and for all
settle this for once and for all
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:16 pm to OWLFAN86
Set it up. Pick an admin to be the ref.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:19 pm to OweO
Fred has agreed
pick the place,,, can you get there?
pick the place,,, can you get there?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:23 pm to OWLFAN86
i dont like talking to you lets the board work it I'll be there
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Remove the Judeo Christian values, and it will quickly turn into a desolate shithole.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:34 pm to Champagne
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Those East German girls are freaks in bed and will do anything for a chocolate bar and a pack of cigarettes.
You DO know that the wall came down in November 1989, right??
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:48 pm to tigergirl10
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I will never understand anyone who doesn’t believe in God. God is nothing but love.
What a naive, close-minded view and understanding you have of the world. I feel sorry for you, probably never been outside of your parish.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:49 pm to 1BamaRTR
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I know. Even in the South I see it a lot. But in Europe their number of practicing Christians is even lower.
The two main reasons for Europe and America being different here:
1. America was first settled by relatively radical religious practitioners who were encouraged (peacefully or otherwise) to frick off across the Atlantic by the powers that be in Europe at the time. Religion has always been more important to American communal life than European communal life because of that.
2. Europe consists of true nation-states in the sense that each state represents a distinct ethnic nation with its own shared heritage, language, etc. Religion is one component of that, but there are others, and those roots run deep. America has never had the same degree of ethnic cohesion - maybe right around the Founding, but that quickly changed in the early 1800s with immigration from Europeans not from Great Britain - and is obviously not nearly as old, so religion is relatively more important to maintaining cultural unity in America than in Europe.
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