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re: This is Huge For Our Coastal Restoration

Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40901 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:32 pm to
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There aren't many state projects that come in under budget and over-deliver


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Make Atchafalaya Great Again
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:35 pm to
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Another 'stopping' nature project that will eventually be a waste. Same can be said for rebuilding New Orleans.




So much ignorance and hate in one post. I can appreciate the intensity but not the intellect.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:36 pm to
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Make Atchafalaya Great Again


If the ignorants like Baby-Tec have their way the Atchafalaya will be VERY great again after Old River eventually fails.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:37 pm to
The atchafalaya basin is also largely filled in now. A lot of lakes way north of the gulf filled in. Then you began to see a large land gain near the river mouth. So you have to account for that land gain too in the "swamp"
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9770 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:39 pm to
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The Atchafalaya is already building land at the delta, and that region is probably the only region in the state that is not subsiding.


Go to the Wax Lake Delta. Do it today. It's like going back in time to the 70's. I've never seen a place so rich with coastal wildlife. Birds everywhere. Bald eagles flying around. It's AWESOME.

After seeing the coastal Louisiana that I know and love wash away for so long, going to the Wax Lake Delta gave me heart again. It showed me what could be if we can help the restorable areas of our coast (some places are too far gone). If you love Louisiana's wetlands... don't hesitate. Run and check it out. You will come back feeling good again about our coast, even though there's so much more to be done.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13055 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:39 pm to
I don't think I'm getting your point. I think I agree with what you are saying, but I'm not sure what you are saying. Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13055 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:40 pm to
I've been there. I've actually done some restoration work down there. All over the coast for that matter, from the Atchafalaya to the Sabine.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:41 pm to
No. What I'm saying is, the land you see built around Wax Lake is only part of what has come from the Atch River. Much of the sediment created land before it ever reached the gulf. So it bodes well for future gain.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:52 pm to
IIRC LSU had a study a number of years ago that basically said that the soil transported by the Miss river is less than the amount of soil scoured from the Miss River basin. In other words even if you took all of the soil coming down river and deposited it evenly across the area, LA would still be losing land.

The real culprit here is all the dams, flood control structures and weirs upriver trapping sediment.

It seems to me this plan is more like buying time than a real solution.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13055 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:54 pm to
Gotcha. That's what I thought you meant. Basically the point I've tried to make to Mr. Blow The Levees up. No need to. The system is working there and hasn't been as damaged as the Mississippi Basin. The thing is, the floodplain wasn't cut off from the River like the Mississippi floodplain was.

Some of those areas outside the protection levee may benefit from flooding, but for the most part, the floodplain is within the levees.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11120 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:56 pm to
Now we just need to cut then right south of Baton rouge
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:56 pm to
Who owns the land?
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:59 pm to
Thank you JBE
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13055 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

JBE


Had ZERO to do with this project.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17832 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:04 pm to
State owns the land.

But that is always the devil's advocate question, and one of the biggest issues.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:05 pm to
True. Overall sediment is down. Eventually (maybe 75 years from now) the "mouth" of the MS from a shipping viewpoint will be moved well upstream from Venice. We can't save the whole bird foot (or recreate it) but strategic levees, marsh creation and diversions can create good land in areas that provide create storm protection
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23341 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:23 pm to
Number one contributer to coastal erotion was leveeing the MS River. 2nd was allowing oil companies to cut canals directly through the Marsh.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64006 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:23 pm to
Some of us have been saying this for years.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64006 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:26 pm to
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So how much money was spent on doing this????



$300K was allotted. Projects total cost was $88K. Read the article.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:29 pm to
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State owns the land.



I'm not so sure about that. To my knowledge there is zero public land in that area.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 2:36 pm
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