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re: This generation is so coddled that simple consequences seem like tyranny

Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:03 am to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:03 am to
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Yes, until you do something stupid like throw a brick. Then you should get the ever living shite beat of you.


Again, who are you arguing against here?
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:04 am to
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Ok, gramps.


This is the attitude to have if you want to be successful in life.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:04 am to
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Yes, until you do something stupid like throw a brick. Then you should get the ever living shite beat of you.



almost everyone agrees with you

so why do you keep arguing this?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:04 am to
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Not if it infringes on your constitutional rights. You have no rights to burn or steal other people's shite. One is a crime and the other isn't. Don't be obtuse.


Interesting how this narrative keeps shifting. For years I was told that it didn't matter if you were 100% in the right, comply or die. Just follow orders and let the courts sort it out later. If you refuse to comply, you deserve what you get.

Now we are making more nuanced determinations on when it's appropriate to tell LEOs to go frick themselves. Very, very interesting.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:04 am to
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Again, who are you arguing against here?



I think he was clarifying for Salmon since Salmon is doing his usual walk the line with his response. I can't think of examples of places that instituted curfews for only peaceful assemblies, but I'm willing to be educated
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:06 am to
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I think he was clarifying for Salmon since Salmon is doing his usual walk the line with his response


Right. Silly me for not viewing literally everything as black and white.

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I can't think of examples of places that instituted curfews for only peaceful assemblies, but I'm willing to be educated


Why are we punishing people that didn't break the law?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:08 am to
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Silly me for not viewing literally everything as black and white.


That's not what I said

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Why are we punishing people that didn't break the law?


I'm not a fan of curfews, so you don't have much of an argument from me. But I do get the logic in instituting them when the demonstrations turn violent and aren't stopping.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:09 am to
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can't think of examples of places that instituted curfews for only peaceful assemblies,


Fair, but I don’t think it makes it different. If violence/riots caused the curfews to be in place, it doesn’t necessarily mean defying the curfew makes them a violent rioter like he seems to be implying in order to make that contrast. If that makes sense.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:10 am to
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I'm not a fan of curfews, so you don't have much of an argument from me. But I do get the logic in instituting them when the demonstrations turn violent and aren't stopping.


Ah, we’re pretty much eye to eye on this then.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:11 am to
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it doesn’t necessarily mean defying the curfew makes them a violent rioter like he seems to be implying in order to make that contrast. If that makes sense.


I get what you're saying. I don't think it's smart to try to go have a peaceful demonstration after curfew once they've been implemented due to the violent people though. I'd do my demonstrating during business hours.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:13 am to
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almost everyone agrees with you

Well, almost everyone agrees the Cop who killed Floyd was wrong and racism is wrong, but here we are with riots and protests

So it seems like fighting for things everyone already agrees with is kinda the in thing to do


Im going to start burning buildings so people can know that child rape is wrong. You down? If not, I can only assume you are for child rape
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 10:15 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:15 am to
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I get what you're saying. I don't think it's smart to try to go have a peaceful demonstration after curfew once they've been implemented due to the violent people though. I'd do my demonstrating during business hours


For sure. I think anyone going out after dark with the intent to peacefully protest should fully prepare themselves for not only the possibility of people stirring shite up but also the possibility of cops treating the whole group as a riot if that happens. The police aren’t going to try to differentiate when the chaos starts. They really don’t have the time to. If you believe in the cause enough to risk that, then fine.

It’s best to do it during the day when the looters and rioters are too pussy to come out for the most part.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:16 am to

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Can you point me to nationwide violent protests over COVID?


These were taken inside and outside the Michigan state house during a Covid protest. This is peaceful to you? Completely justified? Why weren't cops in there busting heads?

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Let me guess....it's their "constitutional right". Goes both ways.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48733 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:17 am to
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The dick sucking that this board does to justify police brutality is laughable. Seriously, how could you justify what that Buffalo police office did to that old man




COMPLY OR DIE!

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:17 am to
I don't see violence in those pictures. Try again.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:18 am to
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I don't see violence in those pictures.


But you're scared of a guy holding a brick?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:18 am to
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lsupride87



I still haven't forgiven you for calling me a "10 speed hero" on the MSB

Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84041 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:18 am to
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But you're scared of a guy holding a brick?


You may want to let someone else have a turn. Show me the physical violence and property destruction.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:19 am to
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Let me guess....it's their "constitutional right". Goes both ways.


You don’t have to put it in quotes. It is their constitutional right. And it should go both ways.

The water is muddied when you have assholes coming in and destroying property. I have and will continue to argue all day that protestors and rioters/looters are separate groups, but they all blend together when the rioting starts so it’s virtually impossible to stop one and let the other continue.
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1507 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:20 am to
Videos like this and the antifa knockout videos give me a stiffy. Then I lose it when I think about the future with these snowflakes actually having to move out of the basement and make adult decisions. Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time sweetheart.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 10:21 am
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