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re: This day in 1863

Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:45 pm to
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I really don't know why they mark Pickett's charge as a the high mark. Even if they had won at Gettysburg it wouldn't haven't meant much. The Army of the Potomac would have retreated to Washington and Vicksburg would still be lost. The whole Gettysburg campaign was for null.



The West was never really that important to the South's strategy. The plan was always to capture Washington.

1. The Confederates win at Gettysburg and the Yanks retreat to Washington.
2. The South lays siege to Washington with an uncontested supply chain up through the Shenandoah valley.
3. The Confederacy is recognized by France and the UK.
4. Napoleon III enters the war on the side of the South.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141291 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:46 pm to
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Within ten years all you will see is a memorial to the fallen union soldiers in a battle against an unspoken enemy.



Yep. Let's eradicate history entirely.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:48 pm to
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3. The Confederacy is recognized by France and the UK.


Wasn't any hope of British recognition and mediation over after Antietam?
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:52 pm to
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Wasn't any hope of British recognition and mediation over after Antietam?



Very possibly so, but the French were dying to get a new foothold in North America during this period and had no qualms about the slavery thing.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:55 pm to
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Very possibly so, but the French were dying to get a new foothold in North America during this period and had no qualms about the slavery thing.


Yeah, but they didn't want to risk war with the United States.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:57 pm to
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Yeah, but they didn't want to risk war with the United States.



Right, that's the whole point. If Lee could have gotten a good siege of Washington going, they might have thought they wouldn't have to. None of these theories are original to me.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47789 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:02 pm to
I go up I-4 as far as Amelia or Par occasionally. I will honk on the way by.

I am over in the meth capitol. The Green Swamp Ape is my neighbor.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43098 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:02 pm to
Lee wins a decisively at Gettysburg, and you may have seen Union willpower crumble and a peace negotiated. That was the Confederacy's best chance for a win.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25606 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:04 pm to
We went to Gettysburg last summer.....incredible experience. The battlefield is massive and circles the entire town. We took a whole day and I felt rushed. I definitely need to get back in the near future.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40405 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:21 pm to
Great insight in this thread from all of you

I'm just now getting into Civil War history.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:46 pm to
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I go up I-4 as far as Amelia or Par o

Yep. Orlan-doh!
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:49 pm to
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We went to Gettysburg last summer.....incredible experience.

Yeah, I went there one time in August, and another time right after Labor Day. The crowds were gone, but it was still a hot, humid day, not unlike the three days of the battle. Pretty moving experience walking around the field with few other people there.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26690 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:52 pm to
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R.I.P. the fallen on those three bloody days.

I hope you're only talking about the northern side. All the confederate soldiers who died were nothing but a bunch of rampaging racists, each of which who owned 50 slaves each and laid the groundwork for the KKK by passing out confederate flags.

At least that's what I read on facebook.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47789 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 3:20 pm to
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I'm just now getting into Civil War history.


LINK

This is a decent read with a lot of info packed into a small space. Keep in mind while reading that Lincoln was an attorney for some of the railroads before he became president. He was also an attorney for shipping companies, against a few railroads.

He was a racist and felt that blacks were inferior to whites. He was also a brilliant politician with a knack for being able to weigh all sides and see what opinion would triumph.
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