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re: Things are heating up again in Korea (UPDATE IN OP: US Mobilizes 2nd ID)

Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:16 pm to
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If they invade the North wouldn't that cause a new problem with China?


Possible, although we don't know for sure. There's reason to believe that China would not get involved. But there's also considerations that say they could.

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Another question, did South Korea find all the tunnels the North had dug?


I'm sure there's some that have not been discovered. Kind of like this latest "incident", these tunnels are a never ending problem.
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:33 pm to
It would be interesting to see how all this plays out, I hope it ends like all other N. Korea threats and nothing happens. I have a son that turns 18 in January and I would hate to see him go to war because of the little a-hole.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:36 pm to
I have two years and then I'm free from SS
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted by slacker130
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:38 pm to
I never thought I'd see the day when posters are knighting for Darth, but here it is.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:40 pm to
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It would be interesting to see how all this plays out, I hope it ends like all other N. Korea threats and nothing happens.


I'd say there's about a 98% chance nothing comes from this latest flare-up so your son is probably safe.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:41 pm to
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Would being a gunner on an Abrams in 1/37 Armor during the First Gulf War count as seeing a bit of action in your book?

Meh, only b/c you annihilated the Republican Guard in 30 minutes and ended the war within 4 days.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:48 pm to
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I never thought I'd see the day when posters are knighting for Darth, but here it is.


An odd sight to say the least.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
72289 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:50 pm to
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I never thought I'd see the day when posters are knighting for Darth, but here it is.


An odd sight to say the least.


To be honest I didn't even know how to respond. Feels so odd.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:59 pm to
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I never thought I'd see the day when posters are knighting for Darth, but here it is.


Meh. I calls it like I sees it sometimes. The War Skule cat thinks a gun system can shoot down 500,000 artillery shells in an hour. Whaddaya gonna do but call him a dumb shite?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:06 pm to
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The War Skule cat thinks a gun system can shoot down 500,000 artillery shells in an hour. Whaddaya gonna do but call him a dumb shite?


It's possible. You'd just need about 83,333 of those gun systems all lined up. From what I can find they only cost about $5,000,000 a pop so it would cost us something like $416 billion dollars to set it all up. Chump change really.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:08 pm to
Yeah, but he's seent it take out six to eight at a time, you stupid frick!
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:18 pm to
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Darth_Vader
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The War Skule cat thinks a gun system can shoot down 500,000 artillery shells in an hour. Whaddaya gonna do but call him a dumb shite?


It's possible. You'd just need about 83,333 of those gun systems all lined up. From what I can find they only cost about $5,000,000 a pop so it would cost us something like $416 billion dollars to set it all up. Chump change really.


$416 billion dollars? Isnt that what the Obamacare website cost?

Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:28 pm to
I recall listening to General Livsey, CFC and 8th Army Commander, addressing the officers of 2ID in 1985. He said that how quickly the North Koreans would be defeated was simply a matter of how much warning he had before an attack. I would imagine that the correlation of forces has moved in the South's favor over the past 30 years. The only real question is what steps toward mobilization has the ROK taken?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:29 pm to
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Yeah, but he's seent it take out six to eight at a time, you stupid frick!


Exactly. Course there's also the matter of crewing these systems. From what I can see, each gun would need a crew of about 4. So we'd need a force of just under 335,000 troops just to crew them. Course you'll also need other troops like cooks, medics, supply, etc. to support all those crews so when you add all those guys in you'll need somewhere around 700,000 - 800,000 total troops just for this one area to protect this one city using this one system.

Seems legit.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:08 pm to
LINK

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UNITED NATIONS, United States (AFP) - North Korea threatened on Friday to launch a "very strong military counteraction" if South Korea refuses to halt propaganda broadcasts, in a warning delivered at the United Nations.

Pyongyang's deputy UN ambassador An Myong Hun told reporters that "if South Korea does not respond to our ultimatum, our military counteraction will be inevitable, and that counteraction will be very strong."

North Korea has put its front-line troops on combat readiness after delivering an ultimatum to South Korea to switch off its propaganda loudspeakers by Saturday afternoon or face military action.


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North Korea has requested an urgent meeting of the Security Council to discuss the crisis, but diplomats said none of the council members had backed the request, including Pyongyang's ally China.


LINK

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South Korean President Park Geun Hye’s government on Friday refused to heed North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s demands to stop broadcasting anti-Pyongyang propaganda broadcasts across the border by 5:30 p.m. in Seoul on Saturday or face dire consequences. Kim’s troops deployed “multiple rocket launchers” and “entered into a wartime state” after trading fire with the South on Thursday.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52510 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:10 pm to
North Koreans are some soft pussies. That whiny bitch in charge needs to go
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27132 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:15 pm to
Given that with every passing generation more and more North Korean children are shorter, physically smaller, and malnourished as opposed to their South Korean counterpart,

Eventually these kids will move into North Korean military and will be no match to fight anything.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:31 pm to
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North Korea has requested an urgent meeting of the Security Council to discuss the crisis, but diplomats said none of the council members had backed the request, including Pyongyang's ally China.


Translation: China is telling Kim to sitdown and shut his fricking mouth.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:35 pm to
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Translation: China is telling Kim to sitdown and shut his fricking mouth.


Yep. China has enough going on right now, they're probably annoyed as hell with NK right now.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
72289 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:39 pm to
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Translation: China is telling Kim to sitdown and shut his fricking mouth.


Yep. China has enough going on right now, they're probably annoyed as hell with NK right now.


Yeah, before this I was 98% sure no war would happen. Now I'm 100% sure.
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