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re: There is a common misconception here about stimulus checks.

Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:16 pm to
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Nothing to correct directly. You're entire OP is subjective anti-government shtick based on nothing the government actually does.


So I'm right, you just dont like it basically. The fed us an abomination and has been a plague since it's inception. There's a reason central banks were resisted for years in this country.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:18 pm to
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The fed is more powerful than the government that we elect and they are pumping trillions into the monetary system.


Most people don't realize there's a checks and balances in the "fed" between the Board of Governors and non board members of the FOMC. Their appointed terms are intentionally 14 yrs to avoid political volatility. So they may be powerful for a spell but not above government.

But yes when the FOMC buys securities => inflation.

However, that's the "price" of economic stability in equations I doubt you nor the OP have ever had exams on in college.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:18 pm to
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While I give a frick, if everybody else is getting theirs by god I'm gonna get mine.




I mean I'm saving mine as well. People just need to recognize what this is. It's not the government doing you a favor, it's them trying to keep a lid on things and maintain the status quo.

Just asking for some intellectual honesty is all.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47528 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:19 pm to
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There's a reason central banks were resisted for years in this country.

There it is. Your credibility is shot or indisputably skewed if you're anti-central banks. The Aryan Nation resists central banks.
Bye boy.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 10:22 pm
Posted by nated14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
879 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:21 pm to
I’m not getting a check either but I’d love a tax break in 2022ish while those who were kept afloat pay some back. The government didn’t give the money, the earners above 198k did. It would be great if it was structured as a 0% loan. Even at 0% somebody makes money.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:23 pm to
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However, that's the "price" of economic stability in equations I doubt you nor the OP have ever had exams on in college.


The problem with that theory is that the "stability" is a crock. It does provide some general overall stability, however it only benefits those at the top of the chain. For everyone else it's a net negative, since they now have less money than they did before the Fed decided to print more money.

Having a college degree is nice. I'm sure you know far more details than I do. That doesn't mean I can't comprehend the big picture and realize what the result of this is going to ben. You just admitted that inflation the result. So it looks like I dont need a degree in finance.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:23 pm to
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EarlyCuyler3


I work in the financial world and we’re all talking about this. I actually emailed both my Senators strongly opposing the bill.... and I would looooove $1,200.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:24 pm to
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There it is. Your credibility is shot or indisputably skewed if you're anti-central banks. The Aryan Nation resists central banks.
Bye boy.


You infer I'm a white supremacist, yet my credibility is the one in question? That's rich.

What a dumb position. You posit that one's opinion is incorrect if it doesnt support centralized banking. Now that's really dumb. Really, really dumb.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 10:26 pm
Posted by nated14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
879 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:25 pm to
The fed still has the power to dictate monetary policy to a limit and they push the limits when they can. Not right or wrong but very influential without the rigors you referenced.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:29 pm to
Taxes are theft? Ok. What do you want to pay for the military, federal highways, law enforcement, and similar things? I guess they should all be volunteers and work out of the goodness of their heart. Forget about schools, libraries, fire departments, the CDC, we don’t need all that excess stuff, do we?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9474 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:29 pm to
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The problem with that theory is that the "stability" is a crock. It does provide some general overall stability, however it only benefits those at the top of the chain. For everyone else it's a net negative, since they now have less money than they did before the Fed decided to print more money.

What?

It’s not a net negative for people who are out of work and struggling to pay bills right now. And those are the people who ultimately keep the economic wheels turning.. by buying things and paying bills.

Of course there’s a long term downside to the stimulus package. That’s obvious to anyone who can walk and chew gum at the same time. The question is whether the negative impacts of doing nothing are greater.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47528 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:30 pm to
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You posit that one's opinion is incorrect if it doesnt support centralized banking.

Yea It's kinda like abortion I suppose. You're the devil if you're against centralized banking.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 11:25 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:30 pm to
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I work in the financial world and we’re all talking about this. I actually emailed both my Senators strongly opposing the bill.... and I would looooove $1,200.




Glad to hear that. Cause the other supposed expert in here has apparently sold out and is determined to grovel at the feet of the Fed.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56432 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:31 pm to
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. They're actually stealing from you in the future to give you a few pennies now. Don't fall for it.
What does don't fall for it mean?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:39 pm to
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Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:40 pm to
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It’s not a net negative for people who are out of work and struggling to pay bills right now

Of course there’s a long term downside to the stimulus package.


That's precisely what a net negative is.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:41 pm to
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What does don't fall for it mean?


Don't believe they're refunding your money or that they're doing this to help you. The vast majority of the money goes to keep business afloat, not you or me. That's what this is really about.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:42 pm to
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Yea It's kinda like abortion I suppose. You're the devil of you're against centralized banking


You might want to see if you can get some of that money back on your education then.
Posted by nated14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
879 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:55 pm to
You mean the stuff everybody uses but not everyone funds? Yea those
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:00 pm to
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Taxes are theft? Ok. What do you want to pay for the military, federal highways, law enforcement, and similar things? I guess they should all be volunteers and work out of the goodness of their heart. Forget about schools, libraries, fire departments, the CDC, we don’t need all that excess stuff, do we?


If that's what it really went to, then great. Except our infrastructure is crumbling but we just gave 500 billion to prop up corporations who are so fiscally irresponsible they would implode without government intervention.
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