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re: Then vs Now: The 2009 panic we have all forgotten

Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:18 pm to
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I'm not denying reality,


You did.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
The Sticks
Member since Jun 2015
9722 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:19 pm to
Those numbers are calculated from deaths in countrys like IRAN, you godamn Jake leg.

Or are you saying the US health care, and Public health systems are comparable to third rate shite holes with medicine men and open air meat markets.

Idiot.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:19 pm to
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I'm not denying reality, my friend. I'm simply going off what everyone has been saying in the megathread and the data that currently exists out there on the internet. The symptoms are very flu-like. Any young person who wakes up with those classic symptoms will likely call in sick, take some motrin, and stay in bed until their fever breaks and the sickness passes. I had flu-like symptoms while home for Christmas and didn't visit the doctor. I was over it in three days.

We know it doesn't really prey on the young and rarely even manifests symptoms in children. So there is a great chance that there are literally thousands of Americans walking around with the virus right now who will never know they ever had it.



None of this fits the narrative. Stop making things up
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:20 pm to
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The swine flu infected between 11-21% of the total global population. That would be 700 million - 1.4 billion people who contracted the swine flu. And yet, no panic


Yea because it had:
- a 0.4% hospitalization rate
- a 0.02% fatality rate
- And immediate development of a known to be effective vaccine

Why is it so hard to understand?

The mortality rate from the number out of China were more than 100x higher based on the numbers you posted

This means in order for it to be equal to the swine flu: China’s numbers are 100x off
Italy’s numbers are 200x off
And Korea’s numbers are 50x off

At what point does the data become overwhelming?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30278 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:20 pm to
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Are you saying they’re not reporting accurate numbers?


Unequivocally yes....simply because it's impossible for them to know the number of people infected.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71111 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:20 pm to
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You did.


Either tell me why I'm wrong or admit you're just talking out of your arse.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87966 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:20 pm to
Sure it does. 0.6% fatality is because of one single reason. This is really deadly for the elderly because it’s more likely to be worse for them. With swine flu, the death rate was 0.02% solely because it seemed to infect more working age people... healthier people. So, overall, this is 30 times more deadly than swine. But only because of how it affects the old people. It’s actually less deadly than the regular flu for 0-20 year olds. The context is relevant.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:21 pm to
It's almost like we've learned from other pandemics how to slow them down to save lives and are doing what we can to do that.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:22 pm to
I’m saying that even using conservative numbers, this could be a big issue that warrants caution.

But keep denying reality and burying your head in the sand. I hope it works out for you
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:23 pm to
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absolutely love all the beta males


Sounds like something the alpha male says .
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:24 pm to
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Unequivocally yes....simply because it's impossible for them to know the number of people infected.


And you don’t think the World Health Organization has factored that into their figures?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:26 pm to
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Those numbers are calculated from deaths in countrys like IRAN, you godamn Jake leg.

Or are you saying the US health care, and Public health systems are comparable to third rate shite holes with medicine men and open air meat markets.

Idiot.


I am surprised you disagree with our presidents doctors on this. .
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77223 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:27 pm to
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My bad. The WHO latest estimate (Mar 3) has it at 3.4%.

Are you saying they’re not reporting accurate numbers?
100%

The WHO loves situations like this.

They gain funding and people pay attention to them.

If there is any organization out there that will play this situation up more than the US media, it is the WHO.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:27 pm to
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Either tell me why I'm wrong or admit you're just talking out of your arse.


I already did.

And the guy who starts w fake news and “probably” sets the standard for talking out of the arse.
Posted by Slimeball
Member since Jan 2020
160 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:30 pm to
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Sounds like something the alpha male says


Hell yeah it does, nothing can stop that guy. Not the world’s leading health officials, not the stats, not the insane potential something like this has, nothing. He sees right through it like a real man.

If thousands of people need medical attention where he lives he’ll just say quit yer bitchin and whip up a new hospital like an alpha would.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:30 pm to
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Sure it does


Nope.
quote:

This is really deadly for the elderly because it’s more likely to be worse for them. With swine flu, the death rate was 0.02% solely because it seemed to infect more working age people... healthier people.


I know all this. And posted something similar in the MSB.
quote:

The context is relevant.


Of course it is. Weird how you only address that to me. Not to those denying reality, showing no knowledge of context.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87966 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:33 pm to
0.6% is a hell of a lot different than 3.4%
Posted by Athletix
Member since Dec 2012
5142 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:40 pm to
Maybe the most interesting point of this entire virus event, is the lack of give-a-frick for the elderly. Even those folks that downplay this virus as muh flu, acknowledge that it kills the elderly at a high rate. frick the old folks, I wanna live muh life!

There's been so many statistics posted on how big of a problem this virus is, so you've got to be severely inept intellectually or you're in stage 3 denial. This virus is a problem for our healthcare system and we absolutely should take severe measures to limit the spread.

The goal post has been moving the entire time the virus has been spreading. Before long it'll be

"60+ year olds are almost dead anyway, let's pile them all into stadiums and the rest of us can live!"

I guarantee threads like this won't age well. I legit pray for warm weather to dampen this thing down, because if Italy is any measuring stick, the hospitals have a legit chance of being overwhelmed.

"muh fearcasting; you want this spread; go hide in your bunker; we didn't do this for __________"
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87966 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87966 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:44 pm to
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