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re: Then vs Now: The 2009 panic we have all forgotten

Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
4006 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:02 pm to
Stop with the facts.

We are trying to tank the economy and create fear and uncertainty leading up to the 2020 election.

Please move along.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50614 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:02 pm to
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I don't seem to remember any major event cancellations or a panic-driven news cycle.

There wasn’t a desire to tank the economy then.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 7:03 pm
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:02 pm to
Well considering the 1-2% mortality rate for COVID19 and using the same number of infection cases from H1N1 would mean 600k-1.2MM dead Americans.

Is that something worth exercising a little caution for?
Posted by Maravich
Member since Mar 2014
2532 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:04 pm to
Media is eating this shite up and will continue to as long as their pumping numbers. Love all the overreactions
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84621 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:04 pm to
we’re all supposed to be dead from mad cow already, at least those of us who survived the Y2K apocalypse.
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1055 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:06 pm to
Your numbers give a mortality rate of .006%.
Nobody knows what Corona is, but in Wuhan it was probably 4%. Even with 1% mortality corona is orders of magnitude deadlier.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

But muh hospital resources



quote:

Oh wait.


You think it wasn’t an issue?

Are we supposed to not learn?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71110 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Well considering the 1-2% mortality rate


I'm gonna stop you right there. Fake news. There are probably tens of thousands of Americans currently infected with the virus who will never know they had it. That means the mortality rate is likely much lower.

This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 7:07 pm
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:08 pm to
My bad. The WHO latest estimate (Mar 3) has it at 3.4%.

Are you saying they’re not reporting accurate numbers?
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 7:09 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:08 pm to
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I'm gonna stop you right there. Fake news


You dont get to deny reality.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87965 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:10 pm to
They’re accurate based on confirmed tests. There are many many more unconfirmed. The flu fatality rate is based on an estimation as well. It’s assumed to be 0.1% fatality rate. Wuhan is about 0.6% by most guesses. This is mostly because countries are only testing the most ill and simply telling all others to stay home without confirming.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8797 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:11 pm to
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This is what “they” want. Isolationism.


I just don't want people flooding hospitals with bilateral interstitial pneumonia because they felt it was their right to get shite faced at a walking parade

Because that's what will happen. LaToya or whatever the frick her name is should cancel her masked ball too
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87965 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:11 pm to
The reality is there are thousands throughout the world with this virus that are not part of the mortality rate number of 3.4%.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:11 pm to
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60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations


So the percent of cases needing hospitalization is 0.4% for swine flu.

Do you think you are going to see that with this virus?
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2527 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

By your own data, the fatality rate was .02%. The coronovirus fatality rate is many times that by even the most optimistic calculations.


The swine flu infected between 11-21% of the total global population. That would be 700 million - 1.4 billion people who contracted the swine flu. And yet, no panic.

No matter what the mortality rate, you're delusional if you think the panic-driven news cycle isn't calculated in this instance.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8797 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:14 pm to
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We are trying to tank the economy and create fear and uncertainty leading up to the 2020 election.



Do you fricking idiots realize how much worse the economy will be if/when it inevitably spreads to a point it overwhelms health care resources and keeps people from working?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71110 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:14 pm to
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You dont get to deny reality.


I'm not denying reality, my friend. I'm simply going off what everyone has been saying in the megathread and the data that currently exists out there on the internet. The symptoms are very flu-like. Any young person who wakes up with those classic symptoms will likely call in sick, take some motrin, and stay in bed until their fever breaks and the sickness passes. I had flu-like symptoms while home for Christmas and didn't visit the doctor. I was over it in three days.

We know it doesn't really prey on the young and rarely even manifests symptoms in children. So there is a great chance that there are literally thousands of Americans walking around with the virus right now who will never know they ever had it.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13769 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:16 pm to
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would mean 600k-1.2MM dead Americans.


I agree that caution is warranted, and I actually agree with the cancellation of the large events. But we won't be anywhere close to 600k dead in this country. I doubt we will even approach the 12k dead figure listed by the OP.

The hysteria over this is out of control.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:17 pm to
Of course. But that doesn’t change the overall point.
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
4006 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:18 pm to
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Do you fricking idiots realize how much worse the economy will be if/when it inevitably spreads to a point it overwhelms health care resources and keeps people from working?


Yea because this is totally going to happen...
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