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re: The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (50th Anniversary)

Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:38 pm to
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The wreck is in Canadian waters in about 525 feet of water. The Canadians passed a law declaring the wreck site a grave site and that forbids the diving on the wreck. This law passed after it was discovered that a body of one of the crew was located outside of the wreck on the bottom. Because of the temperature of the water and lack of oxygen in the water very little if any decomposition occurs. IIRC none of the crews family members wanted the body recovered, preferring that he remain with his shipmates,

RIP crew,


ahh didnt see this post, I believe Michigan also passed a similar law
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:40 pm to
That dude played basketball for Ole Miss in the eighties.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by weagle1999
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 1:20 pm to
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The Anderson


Still sailing on the lakes
Posted by HarryBalzack
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:16 pm to
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Fitz was fully loaded and setting deep. A ripped hole in her bottom would allow water to flood the compartment and build enough pressure to distort the top covers breaking the seal. Failure of the keel would follow that flooding.
I was reading a report on it a bit ago. Turns out the waves were so big that night that the ship trailing the Fitz lost her on radar as she went from crest to trough. The captain of that ship said that at times he had 12ft of water overtop his own deck.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:28 pm to
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I was reading a report on it a bit ago. Turns out the waves were so big that night that the ship trailing the Fitz lost her on radar as she went from crest to trough. The captain of that ship said that at times he had 12ft of water overtop his own deck.


The theory I subscribe to is that Fitz bounced off Six Fathom Shoal, cracked and then never fully emerged from the water. That explains the sudden death of the ship, no distress signal and not even a hint they tried to abandon ship. One minute, they're shouldering through the waves (however much water they had taken from bad hatches, big waves or both) and the next they're literally sitting on the bottom. If she had broken on the surface, I think there would have been survivors or at least guys found in jackets on the surface.
Posted by pbro62
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 5:19 pm to
The legend lives on….
Posted by tunechi
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:07 pm to
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Interesting fact i saw on a youtube video, will have to find it but the 100 years before 1975 so many ships sank on the Great Lakes it averaged to something like 1 sailor per day for that time peroid


What makes the Fitzgerald so much more well known than any other shipwreck or something like a crab boat sinking off the Alaskan coast? Is it the number of crew or specific details of the story? Genuine question, not trolling. Only know “of it” and not really about it
Posted by MotorBoater
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:17 pm to
There is a live feed on YouTube right now of the memorial ceremony at the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum.
Pretty neat.
I’ve always found this wreck interesting.
Posted by Planetarium
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:19 pm to
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The theory I subscribe to is that Fitz bounced off Six Fathom Shoal, cracked and then never fully emerged from the water. That explains the sudden death of the ship, no distress signal and not even a hint they tried to abandon ship. One minute, they're shouldering through the waves (however much water they had taken from bad hatches, big waves or both) and the next they're literally sitting on the bottom. If she had broken on the surface, I think there would have been survivors or at least guys found in jackets on the surface.


Agreed. Pounding through the waves with a list, a hogged back, taking on water. The big waves that hit the Anderson were probably the final blow for the Fitz.
Posted by Morgus
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:24 pm to
I always hated this song.
Posted by weagle1999
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 8:01 pm to
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What makes the Fitzgerald so much more well known than any other shipwreck or something like a crab boat sinking off the Alaskan coast? Is it the number of crew or specific details of the story? Genuine question, not trolling. Only know “of it” and not really about it


The song
Posted by tadman
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:45 am to
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Just heard a great story about them on NPR. Apparently the ship had to be skinny to fit through the locks. Like the distance from home plate to first base. That is no good for large waves on the Great Lakes. And people would line up a whole day just to get a glimpse.



Chalk another one up for NPR garbage. All great lakes ships have to fit through the locks. All of them. A huge part of the trade is iron ore coming from Duluth to the steel mills in Gary, Cleveland, etc... If they're not carring Minnesota Iron Ore they're likely carrying cargo to smaller river terminals and again have to be narrow.


Id like to take a minute and thank the eight dumbasses that downvoted a most basic fact-checking of NPR. Thanks for your time. On behalf of myself and this thing we call "physics" we apologize sincerely for rocking your comforting cocoon of fiction.

Again virtually every boat on the lakes goes through those locks and is that narrow, including MV Arthur Anderson which was ten miles from the Fitz and still afloat today.
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