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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:23 pm to
The POC wasnt to prove it could power the house all night, it was to prove the power output. It just so happened to power it for 24hrs.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:24 pm to
First time I saw the place I thought it was a new shopping or fitness center. Friend at work told me it was a house.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:27 pm to
Its autoclave aerated concrete. Very nice inside.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:27 pm to
How many amphrs per day and what sort of discharge depth were used to figure out the system requirements?

A relatively quick online search and a few calculators I found spit out approximately 43k watts per day (considering 8 hours per day on the 4 1.5 ton units and moderate electrical use elsewhere), and using a 24V battery bank, maximum of 2 days without sunlight, and a 50% discharge depth I came up with approximately 7200 amphrs per day.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:29 pm to
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,all hot water pipes insulated


I get your point, but you're not going to run your house on solar power/batteries if you've got an electric hot water heater, stove/oven, dryer, etc. Anything that can be gas will/should be gas for you to have any prayer to get this done.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:39 pm to
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Its autoclave aerated concrete. Very nice inside.

I thought that I saw ICF's in the architect's pics, I'd def go that route if I build down here again.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:41 pm to
It makes so much more sense. The insurance is way cheaper, it cant catch on fire, no termites, higher efficiency.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:41 pm to
So I'm all set to watch the Super Bowl and damn it I need to call a buddy to come jump start my house
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:45 pm to
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The time is still awhile away that this is a viable solution in the south.


If we would go back to traditional open air architecture instead of the sealed up slab and brick houses it would work.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:47 pm to
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it was to prove the power output. It just so happened to power it for 24hrs.


I can see that,picking the perfect day for the test would be key,for a lot of reasons.

I absolutely believe a home can be created to be entirely energy self reliant. I think being realistic going in,keeping consumption down,having several different ways to produce power,are the only way to make it a reality.

A well insulated house,on a day with good sunshine,with solar panels shielding most of the roof,a high of 80 and a low of 30,it could be pretty easy to keep consumption down. On a cloudy,stifling summer day,with storms moving in and temps around 100 for 16 straight hours,it's a different ballgame.Output would drop way down,while consumption would go way up.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:50 pm to
People lived without AC in the south for 200+ years. It's not a necessity.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:54 pm to
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People lived without AC in the south for 200+ years. It's not a necessity.






It was invented for a reason...

But seriously, some variation of a dehumidifier would be required or else you're going to have a whole host of new problems from humidity.

You could build a self-reliant cabana with a mosquito net, but I don't think that is very practical going forward.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30928 posts
Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:56 pm to
If the idea is to conserve energy,transfer of temp would need to be controlled ,no matter what you use to heat your water or cook with.

Gulf Coast, there is no reason why a solar water heater wouldn't work most of the year.

This stuff can be done,keeping consumption and waste down seems the most important part to me.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30928 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:03 am to
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People lived without AC in the south for 200+ years. It's not a necessity.


It's not a necessity to survive,but in The South,it is a necessity to thrive.

Air conditioning, was the best thing that ever happened for The South.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:06 am to
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This stuff can be done,keeping consumption and waste down seems the most important part to me.


Sure, but you'll need incredibly deep pockets. Unfortunately energy efficiency =/= cost effective for the vast majority of homebuilders. There is a ton of give and take some of the energy-effiecient products/methods are just too damn expensive to gain mainstream support anytime soon.

I'm not trying argue against this being the future, but I'm not sure a solar system on a 6k square foot house is really that much of a game changer in the grand scheme of things.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:50 am to
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I'm not trying argue against this being the future, but I'm not sure a solar system on a 6k square foot house is really that much of a game changer in the grand scheme of things.


So let me get this right, you know all this stuff about energy and the cost of high efficiency energy products but you dont see the significance of a 6000sft house being offgrid utilizing 12 solar panels? And you dont see the significance of 12 panels putting out 14Kw of power? Do you know whats out there now? Do you know how many panels it currently takes to make 5kw much less 14kw?
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:10 am to
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People lived without AC in the south for 200+ years. It's not a necessity


I saw a show on the history channel a while back that was kind of eye opening. Without air conditioning, pretty much any "big" city outside of NOLA wouldn't exist in the south in close to its current capacity. All the other cities didn't flourish until air conditioning. Not enough people willing to work in concrete office buildings, stacked up in the burbs, etc. When it's 90F out all the time. NOLA only got to where it was due to the incredible port location.

In reference to the solar panels, I still have doubts about battery banks and costs. I would put a grid tie in system on a house in a heart beat if I was building new (and if it didn't make the house look God awful). But I seem to recall battery life of closers to 5 years and thousands to replace them. Plus the upfront cost of the panels isn't all that cost efficient when I'm paying like $120 a month for electricity now.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 9:30 am
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:10 am to
Pics not working for me. Link?
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:22 am to
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Pics not working for me. Link


TD doesnt want pics on the site or a link. Sorry.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:32 am to
I don't see a link or any pictures. What gives?
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