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re: The wife and I made a difficult decision this weekend

Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:54 am to
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:54 am to
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Oh frick off with your entitlement.



Who is entitled? I'll pass the good parenting onto my children.

Btw, here's your google search my man. Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it isn't true.

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297141 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:54 am to
Online learning will.make undergrad brick mortar obsolete
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
7458 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:54 am to
People who put themselves ahead of their kids should never have become parents. It's part of what I signed up for when I knowingly impregnated my wife. They come first. They will be on their own eventually, and I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't do the best I could for them.

This is a shitty world out there and I want to give my kids every advantage in trying to make it financially, emotionally, and socially. Kids who are left to their own devices statistically are much less likely to finish college. Fact.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17318 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:55 am to
Good parenting is spoon feeding them everything?
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12960 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:55 am to
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This point, of course, has implications for the calculus that parent's make about their responsibility and role in paying for college.

Lost me at that word right there. I don't see how it is a parent's responsibility to pay for their child's college education. If they choose to help pay for it, fine. But I'll be damned if it's a responsibility.

My parent's didn't pay a dime of my college education. Sure, I lived at home, but I could have lived on campus at minimal costs that could have been covered easily by working part-time. I took out a loan for part of grad school, and it sure has hell isn't handicapping me.

Don't bite off more than you can chew. That's about as simple as it can get. With the exception of a handful of programs, you don't have to go to the biggest schools anymore. You can get an affordable college degree that won't bend you over if you go into a field making a decent wage.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:55 am to
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He's entitled to a debt free college education.


How nice for him. Not so much for his parents
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:56 am to
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Btw, here's your google search my man. Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it isn't true.

LINK

Mr public ivy thought that was the term I hadn't heard of even when I quoted it?
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 11:58 am
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:56 am to
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I'll pass the good parenting onto my children.


You call not preparing them for real life "good parenting?"
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:56 am to
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People who put themselves ahead of their kids should never have become parents. It's part of what I signed up for when I knowingly impregnated my wife. They come first. They will be on their own eventually, and I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't do the best I could for them.


So I guess you will never take your kids off the payroll then.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43131 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:57 am to
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when I knowingly impregnated my wife


I don’t want to sound like a pervert but that got me hard.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:58 am to
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I'm guessing you have no guilt about blowing your parents money for your own personal gain?



I'll give my kids the same opportunities my parents gave me. Good parenting doesn't make the kids entitled. You guys have constructed this weird narrative to help rationalize your poor parenting decisions. Don't attack me. Take a look in the mirror instead.



Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16554 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:58 am to
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Why is it so bad that as a parent, I'd rather my child concentrate on school their first year or two in college than worry about working and school? The idea that the best way through college is doing it on your own financially is absurd. Its one way and its perfectly acceptable, but the best way is absurd.


It isn’t bad if you made the financial plans to do it. If you can’t afford it and have to sacrifice your own retirement for a future of someone else that may or may not pan out it may not be worth it.

Depends on the situation really. Sometimes the smart kid that got into the high end school needs to settle for LSU instead of taking his parents retirement. Sometimes the slack off needs to go to the military or trade school instead of wasting the parents retirement on some shitty liberal arts degree.

Not every kid needs to go to college.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:59 am to
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I'll give my kids the same opportunities my parents gave me. Good parenting doesn't make the kids entitled. You guys have constructed this weird narrative to help rationalize your poor parenting decisions. Don't attack me. Take a look in the mirror instead.



So only bad parents don't pay for all college expenses? Your public Ivy education taught you how to make all these sweeping generalizations?
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:59 am to
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They come first.


Spoonfeeding them and not teaching them real life lessons, like finances, is not "putting them first." You're putting your own pride first.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:01 pm to
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As a parent, i feel like my job is to look at the numbers and make the best decision for my child...not for myself. If that means that my kid has the best chance of graduating if I pay (and the numbers back that up), then that's the decision.


Causation vs correlation.

The decision to pay or not to pay out of pocket for your child's education is insignificant compared to a plethora of other decisions you make as a parent over their 18 years. People in this thread suggesting it's bad parenting (not necessarily directed at you) are being ridiculous.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Online learning will.make undergrad brick mortar obsolete



Online courses are growing the fastest at the brick-and-mortar schools, and tuition for these courses the same as a normal course. Where online learning can save big money is on general living costs for the first two years of college. That is true. But kids will still have to take traditional classes to finish their majors in the last two years.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:02 pm to
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People in this thread suggesting it's bad parenting (not necessarily directed at you) are being ridiculous.


Excuse me, sir. You are defacing the opinion of a public ivy educated genius.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Good parenting is spoon feeding them everything?



You think I was spoon fed? Man you guys have such a narrow bandwidth. Everything is black or white, huh? This bootstrap myth just isn't true for most students anymore. Sorry you feel threatened by that fact.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
7458 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:03 pm to
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So I guess you will never take your kids off the payroll then.


Oldest is 24 and off.

Middle child going to grad school in the fall. I'll help her with living expenses but tuition is coming out of her modest education savings account. When it's gone, it's gone.

Youngest is starting college this week. I'm paying for it. Happy that I can.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16554 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Online courses are growing the fastest at the brick-and-mortar schools, and tuition for these courses the same as a normal course. Where online learning can save big money is on general living costs for the first two years of college. That is true. But kids will still have to take traditional classes to finish their majors in the last two years.


Depends on the degree. Some schools have been pushing degrees you can get without ever stepping foot on campus til graduation. Alabama seems to be on that track.
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