re: The White House is facilitating UFO disclosure

Reddit thread with some of his former believersThey are concerned he's making them look bad.

Stanton Friedman was one of those detractors while alive.

It’s hard to have a conversation with people that think everything is a Psyop.

They haven’t done enough research to understands the basics, let alone anything of substance.

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Ummm, Elizondo is pretty legit.

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Elizondo played up the whole "Director of the muliti million dollar classified pentagon ufo program" title for years . He really wasnt part of the government funded part of the original program AAWSAP. Him and a few others were essentially just sniffing around the Pentagon basement finding some interesting stuff on UFOs. I'll give him credit for bringing the Nimitz case into the spotlight as that is one of the most intriguing UFO cases in recent history but his role has been a bit self aggrandized.

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You don’t make that kind of shite up then get in front of Congress about the stuff.

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I have to say, after studying this phenomenon for 40 plus years , all the stuff that has come out recently and the testimony before congress all appear on the surface as a elaborate game of telephone between guys like Grusch and Elizondo and the old guard guys like Putoff and Stratton who have been saying the same stuff for many years. Now maybe there is there...there and behind closed doors some revelations are happening, but most of it sounds like same stuff I use to hear on Art Bell years ago.

I do think something is happening in our skies and under our oceans that goes beyond prosaic explanations. There is clear records that our government has been taking the subject more seriously than they have let known to the public for 80 years.

What it is and what they know ...IDK..I have my doubts the government knows much more than we do....but if its revealed that non human intelligence is interact acting with us, its going to open up an enormous can of worms that Im not sure anyone is ready to confront.

Whatever happened to the UFO guy on the Poli Board? PreparedAni or something along those lines

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What happened to all those drones or UAPs that were being videoed around New Jersey last summer?

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That was such a strange flare up. There was actual, concerning drone incursions going on over Langley AFB during that time while all that was going on. As often happens in these incidences, like the 1997 Phoenix Lights , where something truly bizarre is occurring and it then gets reported and mixed up with something else just everyday air traffic or military exercises. Although some reputable reporters absolutely swear what they saw wasnt traditional aircraft I think a lot of it was a bit of mass hysteria.

If you want to watch an interview about the drone incursions, 60 minutes did a piece a while back.... pretty interesting and worrisome

Well with the direction of AI and the advancements of technology moving quickly almost daily now, something will have to give if we want to advance inside and outside of our galaxy.

We can’t have both, hidden secrets and the advancements without more disclosures and information being revealed.

You could hide the truth for 80 years apparently but the next 5-10 we will know more than we ever have in our lifetimes.

I’m personally not afraid but intrigued.

If you are religious you can still believe in a God or Gods and be good people. It doesn’t have to drive people to be worse humans but hopefully better ones with interest and drive to succeed and grow with the extra knowledge.

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I guess it sounds better than what it really is and has been for millennia: "Fallen Angel" tech (via preserved hidden archives and spiritual subconscious instruction).

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Oh boy.

Yeah it was said that they raised like over 40 huge/ big concerns when they formed a think tank to figure out the repercussions of telling the public about what they know.

I believe they need to figure out how to package the information and maybe gently bring information out over a period of years.

Which I think has started slowly already so it’s not as shocking.

If there is a President/ leader that has the balls to do it I’d bet on Trump being the guy.

The issue with disclosing this info is I’d wager 99.999% “UFOs” are related to the US Military and the US doesn’t want to disclose that classified info