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re: The West Memphis 3

Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:40 am to
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:40 am to
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All it means is a force fed confession .


That he repeated to anyone that would listen over the next several years.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:44 am to
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What leaves you with no doubt?

The confessions. There were several.
Fiber evidence on the victims.
Bloody necklace linking the killers and victims.
Wax evidence linking Damien to victims.
Blood evidence at the scene of the murders.
Three knots tied by three different people.

quote:

Absolutely, 100% without a doubt.

This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by REG861
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:01 pm to
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The confessions. There were several.


There was only a confession from Misskelley, and he got every single fact wrong until the the detectives "corrected" him, as has been covered numerous times. Please, please explain to me how the "killer" didn't know what time of day he killed the victims, what method was used to kill them, and whether or not they were sexually assaulted. That's not rhetorical, please account for that.

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Fiber evidence on the victims


belonging to the stepdad and his friend you idiot, as determined by DNA testing. Do you actually know anything about this case?

Three knots tied by three different people. [/quote]

wtf? How can you tell whether or not three different people tied them? They all had signature knot tying styles?

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Blood evidence at the scene of the murders.


That wasn't linked to them you dumbass. It belonged to someone else, for christ's sake. That was the entire reason they were exonerated. Don't you think if there was blood evidence linking them to the crime they would still be in prison? They tested the DNA recovered from the scene and it wasn't theirs. Out of curiosity, how old do you think the earth is? Over/under 5000 years? That would explain a lot about you.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Bigtime92
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Mr. Bojangles is the most likely suspect but because of shoddy police work he'll never be found.

And there were other viable suspects besides the Bojangles guy, the ice-cream man and his friend who bolted town. The investigation was a colossal frick-up and it evolved into a modern-day witch hunt.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:59 pm to
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There was only a confession from Misskelley
False
False
False
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:03 pm to
When did echols and or Baldwin confess?
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:06 pm to
And everything you just posted is eviscerated in the link provided on p.2

SPOILER ALERT: you don't know as much about the case as you think you do. I have seen all 3 docs, and was convinced in their innocence. I mean who DOESN'T want to be on the side of Johnny Depp, right? But, just as with the Making a Murderer documentary, the doc gives you a one-sided approach.

I am firmly in the camp leaning towards the WM3 being guilty, after reading both sides.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:15 pm to
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When did echols and or Baldwin confess?
Jessie confessed multiple times.

His cellmate wrote a letter to the prosecutor begging him to keep Jessie in prison.

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October 24, 1994: A cell mate of Jessie’s named Michael Johnson wrote to prosecutor Brent Davis begging him to keep Jessie behind bars. He said Jessie told him details of the crime. He described Jessie as a “cold, morbid person.” Johnson got all the facts correct, except one. He told Davis that the WM3 left a woman’s “nightgown” at the scene. No nightgown was found at the scene. However, fibers consistent with Jason Baldwin’s mother’s bathrobe were found on one of the victims. Maybe Jessie called the bathrobe a “nightgown” while mentioning it was a piece of evidence linking the WM3 to the crime. Perhaps Johnson just got this fact a bit mixed up in his retelling of Jessie’s morbid tale. You can read Johnson’s letter at the following link.

LINK
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1170 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:17 pm to
Sorry. When you said it was false I thought you were implying one of the other boys confessed as well.


So we just have one person who confessed many times.



Also I don't think we can take a call mates "word" as gospel can we?
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:20 pm to
They interviewed Misskelley for hours...like 6-8, eh?

He has an IQ that is about on par with a balloon. FORCED confession.

The West Memphis Police Department stepped all over each others' dicks and missed evidence, clues, and needed to solve a case quickly. Voila! Poor blacks do not "sacrifice" kids...but white trash head bangers do!

The "Satanic Orgy" was also done by critters throughout that polluted creek.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:22 pm to
i remember thinking one of those moms had a kinda trashy milfy thing going on.,


iv'e been by there where they were murdered. it's kinda surreal

they didn'[t do it. i think it was the dad of the one
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1170 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:31 pm to
I'd like to see the bloody necklace story from a reliable source. That second link looks like a high schooler writing a blog with a vendetta out for echols.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17179 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:33 pm to
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you don't know as much about the case as you think you do.


Nah, he calls everybody a dumbass who dares to counter the notion that these kids weren't deliberately railroaded because they dressed funny, so you'd better agree with him or you are stupid.

I can tell he is one of the types who was totally influenced by the documentary films and the fan worship that developed around Echols. I don't know if they did it or not, but anyone saying it's clear cut that they didn't do it and there was no legitimate evidence to charge them in the first place is delusional.

That being said, there wasn't enough evidence to convict them and the police and investigators did a horrible job. Multiple false witness testimonies against the WM3 that later were admitted to be false. That's not on the prosecution, people straight up lied on these kids for whatever reasons. And Misskelley's multiple confessions, including a supposed confession AFTER his trial to the officer's transporting him from the courthouse.

It was a weird case with surprisingly little evidence to be found at the crime scene and no obvious motives. Add in Misskelley's confessions, false witness testimony of Damien speaking about his involvement, and the general bizarre behavior from Damien in general and the WM3 were extremely viable suspects.

But after watching a documentary series with episodes 2 and 3 basically entirely driven by a WM3 support organization and near sycophant following, it's common for people to regurgitate this bullshite that the Christian state simply threw them out to the gallows because they were "weird" and "different."
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1170 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:37 pm to
I agree.


I've always thought echols was an attention whore.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:38 pm to
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They interviewed Misskelley for hours...like 6-8, eh?
he confessed 2 hours in
Posted by OMapologist
Member since Oct 2015
630 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:39 pm to
quote:


i remember thinking one of those moms had a kinda trashy milfy thing going on.,


If you're referring to the first Paradise Lost documentary then you're probably talking about Pamela Hobbs...

This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19648 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:42 pm to
Just finished all three of these over the weekend, and West of Memphis as well. They made a pretty compelling case for Hobbs. None of those really mentioned the Bojangles guy incident.

Even at the time with the lack of testing, etc., those kids got a raw deal. There was no way they should have been convicted. All the experts they brought in in recent years proved that the "Satanic" nature of the crime was BS. If not for that, the WM3 may have never even been questioned.

John Mark Byers is absolutely insane. Was watching some "Best of" of him on YouTube earlier. It was interesting to see him do a complete 180 later when more evidence came out.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19648 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

The confessions. There were several.
Fiber evidence on the victims.
Bloody necklace linking the killers and victims.
Wax evidence linking Damien to victims.
Blood evidence at the scene of the murders.
Three knots tied by three different people.


Where is this information from? (honest question) I agree with other posters that Paradise Lost and some of the other documentaries I have watched are very one-sided. Would like to see/read about the evidence against them.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17179 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:59 pm to
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All the experts they brought in in recent years proved that the "Satanic" nature of the crime was BS. If not for that, the WM3 may have never even been questioned.



Nonsense. Parole officers from the local juvenile detention center brought Echols' name to the attention of authorities because of their knowledge of his past psychiatric issues, which if you look into them are highly disturbing. There's no doubt that Echols was a disturbed mind and a weird frick far beyond listening to rock music and dressing in black.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17179 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:02 pm to
You can listen to recordings of some of Misskelley's confessions on YouTube.
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