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re: The US Overdose Epidemic - Big Deal Or Meh?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:32 pm to Sao
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:32 pm to Sao
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Montgomery County, OH - On Pace For 800 OD's In 2017
Saw this, this morning. This is my hometown.
Blue collar town got hit hard by the housing market and auto collapse. I see updates on FB all the time about seeing junkies. My "nice" part of town even had a recent death which the kids found both parents dead.
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:32 pm to Sao
quote:Meh, definitely meh.
Big Deal Or Meh?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:33 pm to Breesus
quote:No doubt there's a small % of scumbag doctors and NP's writing unnecessary scripts.
No they are just pushing pain killers through doctors to every single patient possible regardless of side effects or actual need. Which leads to addiction. Which leads to other means when the prescriptions stop.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:33 pm to Devil_doge
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If the government started giving federal grants out to states and counties to stand up a drug court system that focuses on rehabilitating addicts instead of just locking them up, we would see a decline in addiction and overdose deaths.
The sheriff and law enforcement lobbies coupled with a large attorney presence will try their hardest not to let this happen.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:34 pm to chasmania
I'd rather the epidemic continue than you have my back.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:37 pm to The Mick
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I'm no big pharma advocate but big pharma isn't hiding fentanyl inside Xanax, heroin, etc.
Fine but they are likely behind doctors overprescribing. A few years ago I got three refills on hydrocodone after my wisdom teeth were removed.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:37 pm to Sao
It is a huge deal, just like crack was from the mid 80s throughout the 90s, but unlike crack the pain meds, heroin, etc is not just hitting the impoverished areas hard.
Awhile back I found out someone I would have thought was more unlikely to never become an addict (I am just saying, you can never say "this person who never do that") had lost her job because she became addicted to pain meds (in this situation, I don't think she was ever prescribed pain meds. It was a situation in which a friend who had some and they would take it before going out on the weekend, they would drink, etc on Sunday evenings so she started taking one before going to work so she wouldn't feel "hungover"... then took off from there).
These numbers are just the number of overdoses, which is sad in itself, but I would like to see the number of estimated addicts in the US. Is there anyone who doesn't know someone who is an addict or someone who overdosed in the past.. 5-8 years?
Awhile back I found out someone I would have thought was more unlikely to never become an addict (I am just saying, you can never say "this person who never do that") had lost her job because she became addicted to pain meds (in this situation, I don't think she was ever prescribed pain meds. It was a situation in which a friend who had some and they would take it before going out on the weekend, they would drink, etc on Sunday evenings so she started taking one before going to work so she wouldn't feel "hungover"... then took off from there).
These numbers are just the number of overdoses, which is sad in itself, but I would like to see the number of estimated addicts in the US. Is there anyone who doesn't know someone who is an addict or someone who overdosed in the past.. 5-8 years?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:37 pm to Breesus
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The sheriff and law enforcement lobbies coupled with a large attorney presence will try their hardest not to let this happen.
We need to find a way (have no clue what that would be) to get people to stop in the first place. Why do you want to get that high in the first place?
Drug courts would seem better than jail but it is often too late at that point.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:37 pm to notiger1997
quote:Seems like every other radio ad is for Townsend rehab.
A few friends work with rehab centers and it's by far the worst they have ever seen.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:38 pm to chasmania
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This. But, we also ignore over prescribing antibiotics, which is just as bad.
Seriously, go away
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:38 pm to Sao
Fentanyl is the problem
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:39 pm to Breesus
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The sheriff and law enforcement lobbies coupled with a large attorney presence will try their hardest not to let this happen.
I honestly see this becoming such a big issue, the law enforcement lobbies will be forced to give in to the drug court system.
An example: The old sheriff of our county would arrest and charge anyone who possessed illegal drugs and charge them with felonies. This became a great burden on the jail, court, and state prison system, and the taxpayer. Eventually his jail was so overcrowded that anyone in the county who was arrested on any misdemeanor and certain felonies would be allowed to post a signature bond and walk out of jail an hour later. When he was voted out and a new sheriff was elected, a drug court dedicated to rehabilitating addicts was brought forward and has proven to be more than beneficial to all parties involved and allowed the sheriff's department to focus on more serious and violent crimes.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:40 pm to OweO
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It is a huge deal, just like crack was from the mid 80s throughout the 90s, but unlike crack the pain meds, heroin, etc is not just hitting the impoverished areas hard.
It is sort of like the bath salts and faux-weed thread. When that stuff was coming out it really wasn't that bad (2c-e or whatever). It got really bad once they started to mutating the drugs to stay legal.
Coke isn't that bad in moderation but when it cut with god knows what or made into crack, it is a shitshow.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:41 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:I agree and it's not just pain meds.
Fine but they are likely behind doctors overprescribing. A few years ago I got three refills on hydrocodone after my wisdom teeth were removed.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:42 pm to Sao
Meh
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:42 pm to Sao
It's a big deal. The only thing I'm really worried about is us doubling down on the stupid drug war though and making it worse.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:42 pm to Dire Wolf
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It is sort of like the bath salts and faux-weed thread. When that stuff was coming out it really wasn't that bad (2c-e or whatever). It got really bad once they started to mutating the drugs to stay legal
To me, this kind of stuff is the biggest threat and should be used as the prime example of why prohibition is more dangerous than legalization. Same thing happened with bathtub gin back in the 20's and 30's.
ETA: there was even a cop on live pd this weekend that said the synthetic mj is far worse than real mj
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:43 pm to Devil_doge
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a lot of doctors started fearing that their medical licenses would be suspended so they cut many of their patients off completely instead of weaning them off slowly. This forced people to start turning to heroin
This is 100% correct regarding the opioid epidemic. Are there people who just like pain pills? Of course. But the majority of people i have witnessed be affected by this started in a doctors office.
Now why anyone would want to do meth or pcp or some shite is beyond me
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:45 pm to Devil_doge
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Back home, when the DEA started cracking down on doctors overprescribing narcotic painkillers, a lot of doctors started fearing that their medical licenses would be suspended so they cut many of their patients off completely instead of weaning them off slowly.
Are you John Oliver?
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