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The student loan industrial complex

Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:29 am
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10917 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:29 am
A system that feeds on itself.

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government basically vomits money at everyone who applies.

If private lenders gave out the loans, they'd look at whether they were likely to be paid back. They'd ask questions like: "What will you study? You really think majoring in dance will lead to a job that will pay you enough to allow you to pay us back?


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College is good for people who want to be college professors or who major in fields like engineering and computer science that might lead to good jobs. But that's not most people. Government loans encourage everyone to go to college, even if they're not very interested in academics


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Government's handouts also invite colleges to keep raising tuition. Over the past 50 years, college cost rose at four times the rate of inflation. Four times!


Article from Reason…

LINK
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27142 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:30 am to
Thanks Obama
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:32 am to
And it will only get worse with more useless degrees and higher costs. This is what happens when people use other peoples money for platitudes and bullshite programs. 90% of people in higher education would never make it in the real world.

Another industry that will destroy itself, then expect a bailout from the very people they hate with a passion.

Got to hand it to Progressives: they know how to milk everything dry, the get blood from the stone.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:37 am to
College should be for the rich, the super talented that earn scholarships based on merit and poor guys who can run really fast with a football.

The rest of us should be in trade schools.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 8:43 am
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2353 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:39 am to
Too much spending on beefing up already bloated administrative staffs with meaningless jobs like diversity officers is the kind of shite that drives up tuition costs significantly.

Unless you come from a rich family who can pay it all out of pocket, stick to a community college for 2 years and transfer to the flagship university in your state. If the location is close, live at home with your parents and the cost will be even lower to where you may not have to take out a single loan. It doesn’t take being a financial genius to figure this out.

But of course Gen Z kids view college as a “vacation” rather than a tool to explore career options. They don’t care one bit about taking out loans if it means being able to have the “college experience”, because to them, posting Instagram pictures of themselves partying at frat houses is more important than having a stable career with no debt
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 8:50 am
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13234 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:40 am to
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College should be for the rich, super talented that earn scholarships based on merit


So poor super talented have to go to trade schools?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:41 am to

What do you think about UT having one of the largest student populations in the country?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:41 am to
Elite colleges are now for the Progressive elite, some minorities, and some athletes (Ivy League for example).

Yes, more people should be in trade school, but the groups that run our colleges will never do the right things to get costs down for middle class folks who can use four year degrees. They run one of the biggest ripoffs in the world, but rail against that type of system elsewhere.

Progressives destroy everything they run. Just another example of this tragedy.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:42 am to
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So poor super talented have to go to trade schools?


No, poor super smarts kids can go. I’ll add a “the.”
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7835 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:45 am to
Everything the government touches turns to ashes.

I started at LSU in 08. The student loan market was federalized in 10/11. The cost of tuition nearly tripled by the time I graduated in 2013. I was out of state.

The quality of education did not triple, I can assure you.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10354 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:46 am to
This is why nobody with a functioning brain should support blanket student loan forgiveness on its own, regardless of political leanings. Doing so without addressing the root cause is like trying to fix a burst pipe by wiping the floor with a towel.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89509 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:48 am to
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The quality of education did not triple, I can assure you.


I applaud your elegance, good sir. (Or madam, or however...)
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78497 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:48 am to
Every layer of this is a racket. The more useless/harmful it is to the student , the more it perpetuates.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:48 am to
The alternative is to put barriers up and only the wealthy can attend college.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7835 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:50 am to
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much spending on beefing up already bloated administrative staffs with meaningless jobs like diversity officers is the kind of shite that drives up tuition costs significantly.


If the feds exited the student loan market universities would right size immediately. Tuition would plummet because the demand at current prices would evaporate.

There would also be a large number of borderline college ready graduates going into the workforce or to trade/2 year schools to figure their shite out until they could afford a 4 year degree.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27142 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:51 am to
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The alternative is to put barriers up and only the wealthy can attend college.



Removing the barrier put us into this situation.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2353 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:52 am to
Before WW2, college was something only the very wealthy could afford. Then it became more affordable for middle-class families. Now it’s revert back to pre-WW2 where only wealthy people can afford to pay for it without loans.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7835 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:52 am to
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applaud your elegance, good sir. (Or madam, or however...)


Thank you for not assuming my gender. May you forever be blessed by whatever higher power the progressives are swooning over today.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18376 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:54 am to
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College should be for the rich, the super talented that earn scholarships based on merit and poor guys who can run really fast with a football.


That’s like 20% of the country. How much money do you think trade skills will bring in if the majority of workers are in the trades?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:56 am to
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This is why nobody with a functioning brain should support blanket student loan forgiveness on its own, regardless of political leanings. Doing so without addressing the root cause is like trying to fix a burst pipe by wiping the floor with a towel.


Bingo. There is a reason DC pushes it. Incestuous relationships that repeat the cycle.
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