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re: The state sanctioned mafia known as River Pilots are shaking down the chemical industry
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:08 pm to Deactived
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:08 pm to Deactived
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They are required by the state to advertise their openings. The last election was in the newspaper and on their website.
So you're saying it's well advertised, yet still 41 of 44 hired are related? Again, I just have a hard time believing that.
another example from that article...
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The Associated Branch Pilots, which handles ships near the mouth of the river, admits far fewer pilots. Of the 12 pilots elected to the group since 1995, seven are related to existing members. However, one of the nonrelatives is a former employee of the association, while both of the group's two African-American pilots are the nephews of C.J. Blache, a lobbyist who represents the pilot association in Baton Rouge.
so either family, or deep ties to get a job that is advertised to any and all qualified applicants. Yea, not buying that.
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:08 pm to tgrbaitn08
who the frick would quit a pilot job to go work with lafourche trash in fourchon?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:09 pm to Deactived
dont play dumb....I know how easily people get run off of jobs in the marine industry....It's a very small industry and news and propaganda spread very rapidly.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:09 pm to TH03
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Then tell them they might not even get where they want because they aren't related to the right people.
03, you have it backwards. They tell everybody out front the chances of getting a job while not being related is close to zero. Jones and cracky and TMS have been saying it all through this thread. So then the question comes who would want to go through all that work that Jones listed knowing what the endgame was going to be?
Then to make it worse they use the lack of applications as a justification for hiring who they want to.
It's like the boy who murders his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he's an orphan.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:09 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Thats because everyone in Louisiana is related some how
lol
the same article even says they have to call each other by numbers because it's too confusing to go by names....because they all have the same last name.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:10 pm to Captain Crackysack
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who the frick would quit a pilot job to go work with lafourche trash in fourchon?
someone not related to "the family"
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:10 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:How dare they! They should be ashamed.
the chemical corps that are posting tens of billions in profit per year.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:13 pm to AbuTheMonkey
quote:That's an average, right?
, most VSL's are about $10MM/life for Americans.
Some aren't worth $1m and some are worth more
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:14 pm to cas4t
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Again, I just have a hard time believing that.
I quoted a part of your article that is factually wrong.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:16 pm to tgrbaitn08
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dont play dumb
Im not. Youre saying that an association that willingly hired a person is now going to run them off for whatever reason.
You also said
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and he wouldn't make half as much
How does that happen?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:21 pm to Deactived
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Youre saying that an association that willingly hired a person is now going to run them off for whatever reason.
Just by giving him a hard time and not calling him out as much...
dont they get paid by each time they are called to board a ship or is do they get a cross the board salary...everyone makes the same?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:23 pm to mikelbr
quote:this is how a lot of NOLA people, white and black, operate... When quality and qualifications are close, go with what you know
wanna see a River Pilot use this logic when selecting a Pediatrician. You can't go find the BEST pediatrician in Greater New Orleans. You have to go find one related to the Pediatrician you had as a child b/c that pediatrician knows your family and probably told his son/niece/nephew all about your family's medical history.
So it's not a problem that he's only 33 yrs old and a Resident. His daddy told him everything he needed to know about your kid's body.
How fricking stupid does that sound?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:24 pm to chalmetteowl
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this is how a lot of NOLA people, white and black, operate... When quality and qualifications are close, go with what you know
That’s how everywhere works. New Orleans seems to be a special brand of nepotism.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:26 pm to Deactived
fair enough, but that doesn't explain how so many candidates would only be relatives or why the ones hired are either relatives or somehow tied to the LRPA.
also, a job can be posted somewhere, and still not really advertised.
also, a job can be posted somewhere, and still not really advertised.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:40 pm to Deactived
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85% related.
I would say thats probably pretty close to the # of applicants are somewhat related.
The associations arent flooded with applications from random people. It takes a hell of a lot of time, money, and effort to even qualify for these types of jobs. Depending on the port and/or association, it can take anywhere from 8 to 12 years or so just to put your name in or become one.
85 of the 87 related applicants were accepted. A 97.7% acceptance rate for 77.6% of the applicants.
15 of the 25 non-related applicants were accepted. A 60% acceptance rate for the remaining 22.4% of applicants.
Nothing to see here.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:49 pm to cas4t
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also, a job can be posted somewhere, and still not really advertised.
If you were looking for a job with a specific company, where would you first go?
I'm assuming their website. If I were applying to Exxon or Shell or lets say the zoo, I am going straight to their website. If they didnt have any info on the website, I would call them. Having it on their website and local newspapers is more than what most places do.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:51 pm to Deactived
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or lets say the zoo
Story Time. Tell us what happened at the Zoo, Jonesie!
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:51 pm to Captain Crackysack
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johnny jr still did all of those things though. im not saying its fair but thats how it works
And that's the problem, you ignorant corrupt frick.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:51 pm to Deactived
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I'm assuming their website. If I were applying to Exxon or Shell or lets say the zoo, I am going straight to their website. If they didnt have any info on the website, I would call them. Having it on their website and local newspapers is more than what most places do.
this is completely hypothetical....but if you already know who you're going to hire (family member) but you are required to post the job, it would be pretty easy to just post said job and call back 0 candidates that aren't relatives. Or post it for the minimum number of days required.
This feels like one of those situations where the employee is likely picked before the job has been posted.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Longshoremen unions in some areas are like this. In Washington,
There was a huge story in the News Tribune (Tacoma) when they expanded. 1100 were to be hired but only 100, surprised it was that many, off the streets.
1000 cards were given out by union members and if the card holder had a ged, no felonies, and could pass a piss test/physical they were in.
Most folks didn't realize you basically had to be born into the right family.
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