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re: The state sanctioned mafia known as River Pilots are shaking down the chemical industry

Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:19 pm to
Then go to a maritime school, spend years working up through the ranks, pick a port in Florida, for instance, and beat out all other applicants for a spot. Port Everglades pilots make more money and arguably have one of the easiest pilots routes in the world. Unfortunately you just probably can't become a pilot in Louisiana. Doesn't mean being a pilot is unattainable
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297484 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Not to mention autopilot is forbidden in inland waters of the US


Geez, I wonder why?

Remote piloting systems are already being used in some inland waters and ports in Europe.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:21 pm to
I would think if this is a state governed and sponsored industry, all it would take is a qualified trained individual that applied and was turned down...

Then file a discrimination lawsuit with the end result being a publishable metric of the qualifications for employment. Combine that with a career path.

This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14785 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:21 pm to
Uhh yea, more competition and less nepotism would be a good thing. No 8 ball needed, though I'm sure you've been selling some to the crew members.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72012 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:22 pm to
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85 river pilots in Louisiana are the devil.



I've not seen anyone insinuate as much. Just that nepotism in the the workplace is generally unfair to other qualified applicants.

You come across as someone who is realizing the word is out on an industry where generally you tell each other to "shh". There's really not a plausible argument for the nepotism, besides what has been quoted and posted. And those answers are garbage-plain and simple.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49003 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:22 pm to
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Would it? Is that what the magic 8 ball says?




You've got to be retarded or trolling... or a communist.

Do you want nepotism to be the guiding factor in the surgeon working on your child's brain?

Do you want nepotism to be the guiding factor in WHO builds the boats you GUIDE up and down the river?

That's frickin absurd to think that various colleges and trade schools along the MS River couldn't develop 2-4 yr accredited programs that would yield 500 qualified pilots a year that would kick your asses in day to day jobs for 1/3 the salary.

This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:22 pm to
With pilots on the ships and pilots in the on shore control room. Congrats, you just doubled the amount of pilots it takes to navigate a ship
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14785 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Unfortunately you just probably can't become a pilot in Louisiana.

Because of the nepotism.

And that's a huge problem and a microcosm of this backwards arse State.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72012 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:23 pm to
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No one is suggesting that. We're simply pointing out that a little more competition and a little less nepotism would be a good thing.


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Would it?


Yes, it would. Competition is always good. You a socialist?
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:23 pm to
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They do.

I've mentioned this before in these threads and it's always overlooked.


Representing 1% of shipping costs doesn't mean a damn thing without context.

Furthermore, being overpaid isn't the discussion that is happening here. We're talking about the nepotism and lack of competition.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49003 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:24 pm to
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Yes, it wold. Competition is always good. You a socialist?




See my post? I called him a communist and suggested that only relatives of existing pediatric brain surgeons get to become surgeons in the future.

This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4913 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:24 pm to
The first thing that comes to mind is a situation similar to the Snell Family in Ozark. I wonder if these guys are running drugs or arms through the ports, and that's why they have to keep it in the family.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297484 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:24 pm to
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With pilots on the ships and pilots in the on shore control room. Congrats, you just doubled the amount of pilots it takes to navigate a ship


Remote systems will replace some pilots and displace others.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:24 pm to
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I would think if this is a state governed and sponsored industry,


No tax or state dollars go towards the pilots. Its all foreign money
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14785 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:25 pm to
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The funniest part of this thread is the fact that the article is a farce to begin with. The shipping industry is moving billions of dollars annually thru the Mississippi river. You think they really care about paying a few peanuts to get their cargo safely thru port. Pilot fees probably represent less than 1% of their shipping costs


Do you realize how ignorant/corrupt/stupid you sound?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49003 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:25 pm to
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No tax or state dollars go towards the pilots. Its all foreign money


It's the GOT DAMNED Clinton Foundation ain't it.


Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I would think if this is a state governed and sponsored industry, all it would take is a qualified trained individual that applied and was turned down...

Then file a discrimination lawsuit with the end result being a publishable metric of the qualifications for employment. Combine that with a career path.


That's pretty much exactly what happened. Went to the supreme court and they basically sanctioned nepotism in their hiring practices.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Remote piloting systems are already being used in some inland waters and ports in Europe.



So youre taking the pilots off of the ships and putting them in a room. How is this reducing the amount of pilots needed?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297484 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:27 pm to
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We're talking about the nepotism and lack of competition.


It's a racket
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10381 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:27 pm to
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What point was that?


That youre not intelligent enough to do 2 things at once.
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