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re: The Roots mini-series is gonna make work aqward af tomorrow
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:05 am to vengeanceofrain
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:05 am to vengeanceofrain
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Imagine living a life knowing that the only silver lining in your life, the only possible thing you can live for that's worth a shite, is that one day one of your grand-kids can not be a slave. Imagine being relegated to cattle, watching your women get raped, your brothers killed and worked to death, and the only thing you can look forward to is that one day, maybe 5 years, maybe 25 years, maybe 50 years form now, one of my grand-kids won't have to endure what i'm enduring now.
So you are enduring all these hardships yourself? I'd like to help, can I send you some money or something to make you and your people feel better?
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:13 am to WallsAllAroundMe
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When will there be a mini series on the African slaves that built the pyramids? What about the slaves that built the Great Wall? Or the slaves in the Roman Coliseum days? Or were the slaves in America the only slaves in history?
This kind of retort is just as dumb as some of the shite you hear from the other side. There were slaves in America a long time ago. There are no longer slaves in America. We need to own it and move forward. Harping on it does no good, and "excusing" it by trying to deflect with other examples of slavery does no good either.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:14 am to vengeanceofrain
I get a lot of what vengeanceofrain is saying. In particular, I think he's right about how hard it must have been to live your days hoping that your children and grandchildren wouldn't have to endure life as a slave. I think that's something important for us all to think about when it comes to imagining life as a slave.
But... this:
Is nonsense, and should be labeled as such. I know exactly where my mom's family and dad's family are from. One side is from a city in Spain, the other, from a tiny village in France. I can point both places out on a map. Both sides of my family have been in America for close to 300 years. I gain zero benefit from this knowledge. It does not affect my everyday life in any way. I'm just here. I'm the same as anyone who arrived here in America two years ago.
In fact, if we look back just two generations, both sides of my family lived in poverty. They were Americans, and they had been here hundreds of years. They knew where they came from, as far as Europe was concerned. The knowledge did them no good as they scraped out a living as farmers and trappers in rural Louisiana.
You don't get a secret bag of gold because you can prove your ancestors came from a village just south of Strasbourg, on the border of France and Germany. I take zero pride in that. I do, however, take pride in being American, which my father also recognized. He broke the cycle of poverty my family was in, and his children all have college degrees and professional jobs now. I owe everything I am to him, and he is just one generation behind me.
But... this:
quote:
This, this here, is white privilege. Not you getting a job that i think i should have gotten. You taking for granted shite like, your ancestry. Knowing where you came from. Knowing where you came from, who your great grand parents are, where they came from, rather or not they were even slaves to begin with, is not a privilege afforded to African Americans, at least the vast majority of them, especially the ones from the south.
Is nonsense, and should be labeled as such. I know exactly where my mom's family and dad's family are from. One side is from a city in Spain, the other, from a tiny village in France. I can point both places out on a map. Both sides of my family have been in America for close to 300 years. I gain zero benefit from this knowledge. It does not affect my everyday life in any way. I'm just here. I'm the same as anyone who arrived here in America two years ago.
In fact, if we look back just two generations, both sides of my family lived in poverty. They were Americans, and they had been here hundreds of years. They knew where they came from, as far as Europe was concerned. The knowledge did them no good as they scraped out a living as farmers and trappers in rural Louisiana.
You don't get a secret bag of gold because you can prove your ancestors came from a village just south of Strasbourg, on the border of France and Germany. I take zero pride in that. I do, however, take pride in being American, which my father also recognized. He broke the cycle of poverty my family was in, and his children all have college degrees and professional jobs now. I owe everything I am to him, and he is just one generation behind me.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:20 am to Kafka
quote:Worst mistake this country every made was slavery.
I wish there had never been any slaves in America
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:21 am to vengeanceofrain
quote:I know, right? White people are the only ones allowed to succeed in this country and everyone else is systemically prohibited from success.
White people, think everything is about them. Everything isn't about you.
Is what I'd say if whites weren't #3 in average income by ethnicity in America.
quote:Or not. It's not like native Africans are pillars of motivation and effort.
Maybe more African Americans would get off their fricking arse collecting EBT food stamps if they realized just how hard their ancestors worked, what they had to endure and go through just to put them in a position to where they didn't have to worry about getting whipped with a barbed belt if they didn't feel like going to work that day.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:23 am to BamaFan70
If we had just known about the good synthetic fibers. But you woulda run the risk of getting stuck in the polyester era
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:31 am to lsuwontonwrap
Maybe in the mail room
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:00 pm to Clark W Griswold
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Maybe in the mail room
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:11 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Half of the Directors are black
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:45 pm to tigerfoot
quote:Would have been worth it.
getting stuck in the polyester era
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:10 pm to Tiger1242
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Well a lot of African Americans don't really know their ancestry because of slavery, and also I see nothing wrong with some wanting to know more about how they got where they are. Roots is historical fiction but you can still learn from historical fiction
Roots is fiction but I guarantee a big portion of it's audience doesn't know that. Plus it's just a remake. there are numerous other high quality movies about slavery. And every single person can easily learn about the topic without needing this movie. Why it's simulcast on four channels is beyond me. It's fine if people want to watch the movie, but there does seem to be a point where the constant reminders of slavery hinder the country's future.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:37 pm to vengeanceofrain
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A few years ago I tried to get on ancestry.com and ended up crying becuase after 2 days i just couldn't find anything on record past my great grandmother.
Boo fricking hoo.
My dad's brother researched ours back.
Turns out I'm a great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandson to Charlemagne.
Now, I don't believe that at all. I don't know where my ancestry is from but I can assure you it isn't Charlemagne.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:03 pm to bbvdd
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Turns out I'm a great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandson to Charlemagne.
Hey Cuz
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:10 pm to vengeanceofrain
quote:You ended up crying because of that? Really? The frick is wrong with you?
A few years ago I tried to get on ancestry.com and ended up crying becuase after 2 days i just couldn't find anything on record past my great grandmother.
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