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re: The ramblings of a St. George opponent
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:44 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:44 pm to magildachunks
I am now considered "the rest of the community". Going and being shot down to visit teachers on their lunch breaks and to find out teachers are being harrassed by students and nothing happening to said students are some of the reasons no one is lining up at the door to be active in bettering the school.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:44 pm to LSURussian
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"In the Highland Road area" is NOT the same as "on Highland Road." Once again, you prove your reading comprehension skills are extremely weak.
So when you previously stated you lived on " 9 acres of highland road bliss" you were full of crap. Got it. Like I said, you are a compulsive liar and your real life is nothing like you try to portray.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:46 pm to pointdog33
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So what would be the solution to getting the community to back the EBR school system?
And don't just say no SG. Provide real solutions that you feel would change the system.
There is no alternative proposal.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:46 pm to Mike da Tigah
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If the family unit sucks balls, so will the schools, and if the family unit is functioning as it should, kids who come from families who instill values and a need to be educated will naturally do better and so change the environment of their schools
I think this is the ultimate solution for EBR as well, but when the majority of the inner-city school students don't have this and haven't had this for 2/3 generations, instilling those values is going to be a heck of a task.
I think if it was started on some the outer edge EBR schools like Broadmoor and Tara you could probably make progress. I don't know if I could ever see Capitol, Glen Oaks, Istrouma, being able to garner enough support and desire to pull themselves out.
This image below is a big reason why no desire to change is there. We are in a system that rewards inactivity.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:48 pm to Mahootney
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Posted by LSURussian
No matter who claims what about the reasons for splitting off, it all comes back to some white parents don't want their little darlings sitting in a classroom that has more than two or three black kids in the classroom.
It is this common theme by St. George opponents that makes it clear to me that the St. George movement is on the right track. Opponents are willing to say anything...even play the race card (which is about as despicable as one can get).
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:49 pm to LSUWrangler
every man a king.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:51 pm to c on z
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Are they stopping you from attending sporting events, musical events, etc? That is where the real support comes from anyway. I can't tell you the countless times when I have been to HS events and see the strong lack of support from the people from the surrounding community of the school outside of the immediate families.
Up until I became a father, I attended most home football games and a good amount of soccer games. I've been to a good amount of plays put on by the drama department also.
The general consensus on why people do not go to football games unless it is their children is because of the atmosphere. The students make it an atmosphere that you are scared to bring your kids to. It has gotten to the point where police have to keep the opposing fans on the other side of the facility because of the harrassing that has happened when they go to the home side to visit people they may know.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:55 pm to Mike da Tigah
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If the family unit sucks balls, so will the schools, and if the family unit is functioning as it should, kids who come from families who instill values and a need to be educated will naturally do better and so change the environment of their schools.
So, in order to get quality education, all St. George supporters need to do is solve the dysfunctional family structure that exists throughout much of Baton Rouge?
I'd say incorporating an unincorporated area where the family unit already exists and whose values are reflective of those whose foundation supports quality eduction seems like something that is much more likely to be successful.
You just made the case for St. George.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:59 pm to pointdog33
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I think if it was started on some the outer edge EBR schools like Broadmoor and Tara you could probably make progress. I don't know if I could ever see Capitol, Glen Oaks, Istrouma, being able to garner enough support and desire to pull themselves out.
Not right off the bat, but long term it could perhaps. McKinley is certainly redeemable though, and the more population density you would have toward downtown, the more need for new schools would arise.
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This image below is a big reason why no desire to change is there. We are in a system that rewards inactivity.
Nooooooooooo question about that, and until we can find a way to change that or create a dynamite private school system to take its place on a scale that serves more kids and holds them accountable away from government bureaucracy, and patty cake enabling nonsense, I think we have to just overwhelm it with numbers reflecting good parents, good kids, and taking real ownership of our community we want to live in and hand down to future generations to do the same.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:03 pm to moneyg
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You just made the case for St. George
Only if St. George were an island in the gulf, didn't have its own share of low valued individuals, and you had any intention on making St. George a permanent place to live than a hat rack you may pick up and cut your losses the second it gets a little uncomfortable or difficult, or something new and shiny is built down the interstate that promises you greener pastures to plop a home down on.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:10 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:What's to stop them from doing it now?
you may pick up and cut your losses
Nothing.
At least with a decent public school education, it may make them give it a second thought.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:27 pm to Mahootney
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What's to stop them from doing it now?
Nothing.
People move because they have to...not because they want to.
You can't just demand that people stay. They have to have reason to stay. And, if MDT's best pitch to not incorporate is that if you can somehow solve the broken family structure in much of Baton Rouge, the educational system will rebound...then he's admitted that the St. George approach is the only real way to solve the problem.
MDT should accept that things are so bad right now, that people are going to leave. Then, as a true supporter of Baton Rouge, he should roll up his sleeves and work to solve the problems that exist in Baton Rouge that relate to education and crime. Once he (and those like him) accomplish that, people will return to Baton Rouge. It's unreasonable to demand that people make irrational decisions and ignore the realities of Baton Rouge.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:27 pm to Mahootney
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At least with a decent public school education, it may make them give it a second thought.
Exactly. If st.George were to not pass, I'm either moving to central, or all the way to st.Tammany parish. I believe in public education, but I will not put my kids into EBRPSS.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:30 pm to LigerFan
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to find out teachers are being harrassed by students and nothing happening to said students are some of the reasons no one is lining up at the door to be active in bettering the school.
Ah yes, the SG mentality.
Turn your back on the problem and run away instead of trying to do something about it.
How many School Board meetings have you attended to address this issue?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:34 pm to magildachunks
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Turn your back on the problem and run away instead of trying to do something about it.
Certainly, St. George residents don't share any extra responsibility to solve this problem. Teachers feeling harassed or not supported by the administration is a real problem that has not been solved.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:38 pm to LSUWrangler
Instead of giving wealth to the people, how about the people get out and fricking earn there way.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:39 pm to LSUWrangler
^ Oh no. That sounds like oppressive work to this guy. God forbid somebody go out and work.
It's not a breakaway it's an incorporation. I get tired of saying that.
It's not a breakaway it's an incorporation. I get tired of saying that.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:44 pm to magildachunks
quote:Ah yes. The EBR mentality.
Ah yes, the SG mentality.
Turn your back on the problem and run away instead of trying to do something about it.
How many School Board meetings have you attended to address this issue?
Attend School Board meetings; that will surely fix the problems.
They were either unaware of the situations or are unable to address the issue. Both are fundamental problems.
So instead of trying to infultrate and overhaul the system, SG is willing to get its hands dirty and take on the challenge of solving its own problems.... addressing roughly half of the whole parish.
Wouldn't this give the EBRPSB half the clean-up duties?
Everyone wins!
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:46 pm to Mahootney
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addressing roughly half of the whole parish.
Wat.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:48 pm to magildachunks
Due to my profession, I cannot be very active in fighting against the EBRPSS's way of doing things.
This is an incident that happened on Friday, so not much has been able to get done about it since then, but it is things like this that turn people away. I know of many parents, mine included, that have tried to be a part of the solution with the school system but it until recently they haven't really wanted help.
This is an incident that happened on Friday, so not much has been able to get done about it since then, but it is things like this that turn people away. I know of many parents, mine included, that have tried to be a part of the solution with the school system but it until recently they haven't really wanted help.
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