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re: the opioid crises has taken a turn for the worse

Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10498 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:25 pm to
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False. Unorthodox maybe but far from the worst advice posted here. I've actually seen posters reccomend to others that they should "die in a fire" now that's poor advice

That’s not advice and recommending someone self medicate with heroin they bought off the streets is one of the stupidest recommendations I’ve ever seen
Posted by Cajun Tide
North Alabama
Member since Mar 2008
499 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:28 pm to
I have Marfan Syndrome. I grew 14" in just over 3 month when I was around 14 that sent the red flags up but I never let it slow me down other than the 3 months of the spurt. I had to be hospitalized for most of it because the bone was growing faster than the tendons, ligaments and skin could. Afterwards I was back to any teenage kid. Fast forward 9 years and I had my first black out. Cardiologist confirmed the Marfans and I had to be careful about everyday task to prevent damage to the heart. Still I continued to work on the arsenal in Huntsville and progressing my career.

Fast forward to age 32 and I got hit with some insane dizzy spells at works and blacked out again near some sensitive equipment. I had to go through a battery of test and the doctors did not clear me for work. I never got to go back to this day.

Marfans is a connective tissue disorder that turns every joint. both tendon and ligaments to brittle. If I damage one there is no healing back up like normal. I'Ve had 7 major surgeries to repair damage done over the years and something a small as laying on my shoulder wrong in my sleep can cause a dislocation. At 40 I was told I have the arthritis of an 80 year old and there is no reversing it. My spine has several bulging and herniated disk and my knees are shot. I was told at 32 I needed a full on shoulder replacement but the doctor refused to do it because I was so young. I had to have 2 reconstructive surgeries and untold sessions of physical therapy to keep it functional.

My body is shot but my mind is willing. Right now my pain management is the only think keeping me upright and moving so when people attack others as pill junkies and addicts I take a personal offence to it and try to break others from this dangerous grouping of people. Hope this helps. If you have any problems that you need to discuss with both physical or mental health from it. I'm always willing to listen and help anyway I can.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5250 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:29 pm to
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to continue in the program, I would have to go home ,count the number of tramadol pills I had , and report my inventory each month at my appointment.
to continue I had to do a drug pee test at each m monthly appointment.


Good. I don't see the problem in verifying people aren't abusing.

Sorry you have to go to a specialist now, but Family Med has proven they cant handle the responsibility of writing Opioid scripts.

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By the way all pain scrips have to be logged electronically to a cdc data base to be used by the fbi


Fyi, This database has been in use for a very long time. Probably over 20 years, the distributors have logged every time a Dr. or Pharmacy prescribed or fulfilled Opioids.

The FBI has had the data all along of which Dr's are pill mills. They could have stopped the pill mills long ago, but they chose to not to. I'll let you come to your own conclusion on why they never did.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117957 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:36 pm to
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The use of fentanyl is going up as fast as opioids going down


The cracking down of "pain management" centers, some regulations on how doctors can prescribe opioids along with the street price of pills steered addicts towards heroin.. The demand in heroin and being able to get fentanyl cheap has lead to cutting heroin with fentanyl.

I am not sure if this is the case, as much anymore, but when there was a certain area in which a few people OD'd, addicts would go to those places to buy because it usually meant the heroin was more pure. But fentanyl can make trash heroin strong..

But I always wonder if there is truly a real effort to keep these drugs away. Imagine if all of a sudden there were no more addictive drugs in the US and it was impossible for an American to get it in another country. Who would have the most to lose? Rehab facilities. Would there be a need for as many drug agents?

Maybe I am wrong, but I always think that if it exist its because someone has something to gain from it (that also applies to laws, etc, etc).
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9674 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:39 pm to
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day. Marfans is a connective tissue disorder that turns every joint. both tendon and ligaments to brittle. If I damage one there is no healing back up like normal. I'Ve had 7 major surgeries to repair damage done over the years and something a small as laying on my shoulder wrong in my sleep can cause a dislocation. At 40 I was told I have the arthritis of an 80 year old and there is no reversing it. My spine has several bulging and herniated disk and my knees are shot. I was told at 32 I needed a full on shoulder replacement but the doctor refused to do it because I was so young. I had to have 2 reconstructive surgeries and untold sessions of physical therapy to keep it functional



Hate to break it to you bud, but people with osteoporosis and connectives tissue problems aren’t getting prescribed opioids. There are much better treatment options. Sounds like you had a surgery, got put on pain meds post op and couldn’t get off. Marfans in and of itself is not a reason to prescribe opioids lifelong.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117957 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:45 pm to
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WaydownSouth


If there was ever anyone to look to for knowledge its you. How do you know shite about everything?
Posted by Cajun Tide
North Alabama
Member since Mar 2008
499 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:46 pm to
Yes because a brief synopsis om my life leads you to know exactly what I go through on a daily basis. You must be a doctor and everything.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9674 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:50 pm to
I mean I work in the medical field. Having a genetic disorder is not a reason to be on opioids for life.

I don’t know everything. I don’t pretend to know the first thing about cars, plumbing, electrical, or anything mechanically related .

Health/Fitness/Sports ask away
Posted by Cajun Tide
North Alabama
Member since Mar 2008
499 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:54 pm to
Like I said...doctor and everything. My guess is you are a male version of all those blond bimbos I see constantly going in and out of doctors offices slowing everything down because they have to blow the doctor so he buy and pushes their pills. See how easy it is to take a brief glimpse at something someone writes and form a snap judgment based on almost nothing.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9674 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:59 pm to
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Like I said...doctor and everything. My guess is you are a male version of all those blond bimbos I see constantly going in and out of doctors offices slowing everything down because they have to blow the doctor so he buy and pushes their pills. See how easy it is to take a brief glimpse at something someone writes and form a snap judgment based on almost nothing.



Sure thing
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
538 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:55 pm to
All that stuff is safe until patients start taking it when they don't need it. To me that's a character flaw or moral failing. Yes, I'm a hard arse when it comes to drug abuse, but I also deal with it everyday. Kids deserve sober parents, no? Explanations, excuses and blaming someone else is typical addict thinking. Nothing new in this thread. Shoot all dealers, offer rehab once. Let's try a new approach. What we do now ain't working.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117957 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:48 pm to
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Sports


Where did Tanner Scott play his college ball?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80403 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:49 pm to
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I would have to go home ,count the number of tramadol pills I had , and report my inventory each month at my appointment.


Especially dumb considering tramadol is not really recreational. It wasn’t even a controlled substance til recently. I think some junkies finally figured out a way to get something out of tramadol so the politicians went to work.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10445 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:52 pm to
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shite is absolutely out of fricking control and they had to do something.
Until people start buying unknown shite off the streets, and it kills them because it’s laced and they didn’t know.
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
545 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:00 pm to
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shite is absolutely out of fricking control and they had to do something. Sadly, like always, it’s pushing the junkies to the black market, but insurers won’t have to foot the bill for that.


Unfortunately, many users go to detox and rehab repeatedly and it is covered by Medicaid. They go when they run out of money and want suboxone until they can afford their next fix, they go when they are trying to avoid jail, they go when they have burned their bridges and are homeless because everyone has kicked them out. Very often, they have no intention of being clean - they just want three hots and a cot. I work at a detox hospital and we see the same patients over and over. There should be a limit to how many times insurance will cover hospital stays.
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
242 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:15 pm to
Have you tried THC?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8724 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 1:06 am to


no, I have not been to Colorado in 5 years to try it. I once smoked a cigarette. and spit tobacco taste for four days. that stuff is beyond nasty
Posted by monstranceclock76
Texas
Member since Jul 2019
932 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 6:51 am to
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New regulations in Texas that are pushed by the fed cdc are causing all family practitioners to refuse to play with the new opiod rules, making them unavailable to senior citizens without getting into a drug rehab program.


What are these "new" regulations and when were they put into place?
Posted by monstranceclock76
Texas
Member since Jul 2019
932 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 6:55 am to
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count the number of tramadol pills I had


I live in Texas and have been on Tramadol for two years. I have never been asked to count the number of pills I have.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59061 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 7:09 am to
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The use of fentanyl is going up as fast as opioids going down. Could there be a relationship. kinda like the lab or wet market discussion. the fed govt wants to control my life down to minut
some Doc has a sweet lab setup. And the GPS don’t wanna fool w it. They will have Sheriffs on duty there soon
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