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Posted on 5/2/14 at 10:59 am to MWP
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The reason why alot of guys do this on their own time. Not to sure about what goes down on the East Coast, but lots of Sailors and Marines train in jits schools in LA and San Diego.
That sounds reasonable to me. I simply don't think that the service doesn't have the time to train them and they are likely unable to train very much when deployed. I will say that I have been told that the largest group that the SEALS draw from are wrestlers because wrestlers are generally in great shape and have a never quit attitude. I believe the majority of those that make it through BUDS, of any individual group, have a wrestling background. That alone means they could kick most people's arse.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:01 am to MWP
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The reason why alot of guys do this on their own time
Krav Maga was our spare time in Va
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:04 am to Hammertime
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Since you are a cop, my dad has been doing Krav Maga for years now, and he says 75% of the guys in there are cops
It is very popular among the guys I work with. Unless guys train regularly at any martial art they are just pizzing away time. The guys that go several times each week are not men to be messed with but those who take an in service training class once a year for 2 hours have almost no advantage over John Dough.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:10 am to DanTiger
I disagree. I play golf. I am a scratch golfer. I cannot go out and shoot under par but I am way better than the average golfer even when I have not picked up a club in over a year. Same could be said for a fighter, which I am one as well. I box. I bet I beat the ever living shite out of most guys who have never boxed. I hardly ever train but I know how to fight. For those in here to suggest that any of our SF are just like the average Joe is humorous. 
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:12 am to rebeloke
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I disagree. I play golf. I am a scratch golfer. I cannot go out and shoot under par but I am way better than the average golfer even when I have not picked up a club in over a year. Same could be said for a fighter, which I am one as well. I box. I bet I beat the ever living shite out of most guys who have never boxed. I hardly ever train but I know how to fight
In other words you are an average OTer.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:14 am to DanTiger
Probably average IRL but way above average OTer for sure... 
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:14 am to DanTiger
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I will say that I have been told that the largest group that the SEALS draw from are wrestlers because wrestlers are generally in great shape and have a never quit attitude.
I have no idea what group of guys has the best chance of making it through BUD/S. It's just as much a mind frick as it is a test of physical ability and I don't know if that gives wrestlers any type of advantage or not. I would have guessed long distance swimmers would do well there since the water work kills off a bunch of candidates but not sure even that is applicable to the type of torture these guys go through in their water work.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:15 am to DanTiger
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In other words you are an average OTer.
He was also a lawyer..And is now apparently a Cop...Rebeloke never ceases to amaze me
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 11:19 am
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:16 am to rebeloke
My future brother in law is a navy seal currently
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:17 am to GrammarKnotsi
no just a past future lawyer... 
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:19 am to Burt Reynolds
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My future brother in law is a navy seal currently
New leader in the clubhouse as to how close a dude can get to a true Navy SEAL. The other leader was in a wedding with one in Coronado and got to hang out with some operators.
This could be game like the Kevin Bacon thing.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:25 am to MWP
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I have no idea what group of guys has the best chance of making it through BUD/S. It's just as much a mind frick as it is a test of physical ability and I don't know if that gives wrestlers any type of advantage or not. I would have guessed long distance swimmers would do well there since the water work kills off a bunch of candidates but not sure even that is applicable to the type of torture these guys go through in their water work.
The SEALS sponsor many wrestling teams across the country, my son wrestles, and that is why from what I was told. I believe the mental toughness coupled with the physical ability is what gives wrestlers an edge over other groups. You also must remember that they have to run pretty impressive times on the beach and that is VERY hard for big guys to do. I imagine most SEALS are average height and weight but very lean and in great shape from doing excessive bodyweight exercises. I don't think many men could make the run times if they weigh in excess of 220 lbs.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:38 am to DanTiger
Know two, both attended the Naval Academy, one was a wrestler the other played water polo.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:40 am to DanTiger
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You also must remember that they have to run pretty impressive times on the beach and that is VERY hard for big guys to do. I imagine most SEALS are average height and weight but very lean and in great shape from doing excessive bodyweight exercises. I don't think many men could make the run times if they weigh in excess of 220 lbs.
My little brother went to BUD/S in 1998. You are right, the big tall dudes have it way worse. They carry all the weight of the wood poles/dingy if they are the tallest in their boat crew and heaven forbid they frick up and have to deal with Old Mis. I bet Marcus Luttrell had a hell of a time getting through since I think he is like 6'4".
That's cool about them attracting wrestlers. Did not know that. My kid wrestles for his HS team. I use him to work on my takedowns/defense and vice versa for him. His cardio is obscense so I can see that angle but the mind games is what gets most guys and I don't know if wrestlers have an advantage there or not. Maybe so, they are some cocky head strong frickers. However, if my kid does decide to go into the military, I hope it is the USMC.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:45 am to rebeloke
My younger brother was a SEAL in SDV Team 2. I've met quite a few SEALs through him as a result and have heard all the stories they have that they can tell and some they probably shouldn't.
Great guys.
Great guys.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:05 pm to MWP
With wrestlers, and other athletes where you push hard, the mental thing is there. All people get tired at some point. Some people stop at that point and give up, and for some people, being tired makes them push harder and you get over being tired and are just on autopilot after a while until you just pass out
I don't think it has to do with just being in shape because anyone could do it then
I don't think it has to do with just being in shape because anyone could do it then
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:07 pm to Captain Rumbeard
Was Jesse Ventura a SeAL or not? That's been a big "controversy" for awhile now.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:08 pm to Captain Rumbeard
You are the new leader of the pack... 
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:09 pm to lsu480
Not true. Some people are gifted physically and carry normal body fat. In the unit I was in we had people you would never think could max a PT test but got 300+. There is no "SF PT Test" test just the APFT.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 12:18 pm
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