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re: The ***OFFICIAL*** 14th Annual JFK Assassination Conspiracy Thread
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:00 am to tiger81
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:00 am to tiger81
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Facts are stubborn things....they don't change. Case Closed ends the discussion. Period.
Kafka literally just showed you a picture of Ferrie and Oswald. Burying your head in the sand isn’t a “fact.”
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:14 am to REG861
There was more than one shooter. The evidence clearly shows that.
The who and where…..who the hell knows. But there is NO WAY 3 bullets from the TSBD did the damage that we know happened.
The thing that bothers me is that a medical doctor saw a bullet hole in the windshield when the limo was at parkland. Her interview make me pause and question / think about the events that day.
The doctors at parkland clearly state that the neck entry wound was there.
Malcolm Kilduff - watch his Parkland Hospital interview - that is enough for me to know there was at least two shooters.
The who and where…..who the hell knows. But there is NO WAY 3 bullets from the TSBD did the damage that we know happened.
The thing that bothers me is that a medical doctor saw a bullet hole in the windshield when the limo was at parkland. Her interview make me pause and question / think about the events that day.
The doctors at parkland clearly state that the neck entry wound was there.
Malcolm Kilduff - watch his Parkland Hospital interview - that is enough for me to know there was at least two shooters.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:28 am to JackDempsey
I won’t go tit for tat anymore annd this is my last post for a while on this, but I’m just going to leave this here. I’m very fortunate. I was paid to do research for a rich guy who is one of the biggest JfK truthers in the country. I was exposed to shite you haven’t even scratched the surface of. I had a phone call with John courington, HL Hunt’s lawyer who is still living last I checked, who told us how Marina came to Hunts office the week after the assassination to collect an envelope that he handed to her.
I’ve met with the dwindling number of relics from that time period who knew the big actors in New Orleans . The general manager at Clay Shaw’s world Trade Mart’s plimsoll club at the time of the assassination was a European underworld figure who went by the name of Pierre Lafitte. No one knew his real name. Don’t you think that’s a little odd? Why is a guy with connections to European underground fascist groups (and the cia, who used those types) the “manager” at a known cia operative’s intelligence front?
Lafitte had a 200 page plus notebook that detailed his meetings with the major CIA and MIC figures leading up to the assassination. Dulles. hunt, chrichton. Walker. Willoughby. Angleton. He was a major facilitator of these events. These people were coming and going between New Orleans and Dallas for months before they pulled this crime off.
Read Coup in Dallas by Albarelli. It takes Lafitte’s notes, provided by his widow, and blows this thing open. It is the most detailed and researched account of the assasination ever written and will blow your mind. The gentleman I researched for has personally held this notebook and reviewed it. Lafitte is not someone anyone knew about at the Warren commission. It would make no sense for the CIA to fabricate an intricately detailed hundred page notebook for someone completely under the radar. If this notebook is legit, there is zero doubt left. And like I mentioned, there is zero doubt this guy existed and “worked” at the World Trade Center. Please explain that to me. You can’t.
This is verified. Lafitte was arrested by the fbi years later for involvement in international fraudulent schemes . I have spoken to 9 0 something lawyers from New Orleans who knew him and Shaw. I was like some of you once, I took the easy explanation out. Now I’ve seen so much that I can’t possibly imagine how I ever fell for the Oswald acted alone crap. Even without all the above, there’s so much out in the open from the declassified files it’s comical that this is even a question.
I don’t claim to have all the answers and neither does Albarelli. I don’t know to what extent if any , LBJ was involved. I don’t know if it was a full sanctioned CIA hit or if it was rogue. I’m sure the Marcello family was involved to some extent on a lower level but I can’t articulate to what extent. What I do know is this was a targeted assassination by some of the biggest powers in the country, and beyond.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 11:48 am
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:44 am to Mizz-SEC
Oswald was a controlled CIA asset for several years before 1963. He had multiple handlers in Russia and in the states such as Ruth Paine and Michael Paine in Dallas. Research bell helicopters and Michael Paine. It will blow your mind how deep the conspiracy actually goes
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:27 pm to JackDempsey
I believe the autopsy photo was actually the cop who was allegedly by Oswald, not JFK. They both looked alike. Besides, JFK had his head in the front blown off, not as depicted from the photo.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:01 pm to tiger81
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.read Case Closed
No - the book to read is Vincent Bugliois' Reclaiming History.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:15 pm to REG861
I am all for a civil discussion on this fascinating subject. I don't doubt you heard some things but after all of these years I believe someone involved would have produced real proof of a conspiracy if there was one. I have not closed my mind to the possibility of a conspiracy. I just need to see real evidence.
I will look up the Lafitte story. I have read forty to fifty books about the assassination and the vast majority are conspiracy books. But which conspiracy angle does one choose? They can't all be right, lol. Was it LBJ, the CIA, the Mafia, Cuban hit men, etc., etc. It's totally unreasonable that powerful figures would choose a nut like Oswald to kill the President. Oswald fired shots at JFK that day. There were Depository workers on the floor directly below the sniper's window on the sixth floor that had dust fall on their head and knew the shots came from directly above them. There were no visitors seen that day by any of the Depository employees.
None of the conspiracy books produce hard evidence. It's things like Guy Bannister's office was located near where Oswald handed out fair play for Cuba pamphlets, a Dallas stripper saw Oswald and Ruby together in a bar, the Umbrella man, etc.
I will look up the Lafitte story. I have read forty to fifty books about the assassination and the vast majority are conspiracy books. But which conspiracy angle does one choose? They can't all be right, lol. Was it LBJ, the CIA, the Mafia, Cuban hit men, etc., etc. It's totally unreasonable that powerful figures would choose a nut like Oswald to kill the President. Oswald fired shots at JFK that day. There were Depository workers on the floor directly below the sniper's window on the sixth floor that had dust fall on their head and knew the shots came from directly above them. There were no visitors seen that day by any of the Depository employees.
None of the conspiracy books produce hard evidence. It's things like Guy Bannister's office was located near where Oswald handed out fair play for Cuba pamphlets, a Dallas stripper saw Oswald and Ruby together in a bar, the Umbrella man, etc.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:24 pm to Kafka
IMO, this is the best case ever made for the lone gunman theory. It pieces together the timeline & locations of everyone who was in the book depository that day.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:56 pm to AlterDWI
We know now that the three letter agencies love to use proxies and fall guys to carry out their own agenda
This story becomes more clear by the year in terms of our governments own internal involvement IMO
This story becomes more clear by the year in terms of our governments own internal involvement IMO
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:28 am to tigerfan84
Some things never change...
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:45 pm to REG861
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there’s so much out in the open from the declassified files it’s comical that this is even a question
most americans haven't read through the files. they're good with the warren "report"
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:57 pm to The Boat
The CIA edited and ‘fixed’ the film. It’s not accurate
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:00 pm to JackDempsey
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Reclaiming History is much better and much more comprehensive.
Sure is. It has pretty much dissuaded me of anything other than Oswald being a wack job and doing it alone.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:05 pm to Corso
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What do folks here think about the SS agent George Hickey accidental AR-15 kill shot theory?
Seeing as the USMIC didn’t start ordering the M-16 for mass deployment for troops until late 1963, and the fact that they were still prototypes being tested from ‘62-‘63, I highly doubt the SS had them before the military.
Can you imagine being questioned as to what weaponry the SS used, and having to say “well, it’s a new type of rifle, still in testing stages”
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:07 pm to Tortious
I came across a Joos angle today, which I had never heard. I'm only noting it because the guy that posted it is a former CIA officer.
LINK
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Now that all of the principals who were alive when John Fitzgerald Kennedy was murdered in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963 are dead, there are only two reasons — neither mutually exclusive — to explain why the complete files have not been released — 1) The CIA is implicated in the assassination and/or 2) A country with influence in the United States is implicated.
While many have speculated that the CIA is hiding evidence that Cuba was involved, the CIA has no reason, in my judgment, to withhold evidence of Cuba’s guilt. I have shied away from pursuing the various JFK assassination theories, but I recently came across a video by Ryan Dawson that suggests a credible reason for keeping the files from the public — Israel is implicated.
What!!!??? That was my first reaction. But then I listened and examined the evidence proffered by Ryan. There is certainly some smoke that points to Israel and members of Jewish organized crime. Why would Israel be involved? Let me summarize Ryan’s argument — the Kennedy’s represented an existential threat to Israel:
1 Prior to the assassination, the Kennedys wanted Israel inspected for nuclear weapons. The CIA had collected evidence from Dimona indicating that the Uranium Israel was processing had been illegally removed from the US Nautilus project via NUMEC (i.e., Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation).
2 John and Robert Kennedy supported Palestinians right of Return.
3 President Kennedy directed Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, in October 1963, to require the Zionist Organization of America to to register as foreign agents.
4 JFK along with France’s Charles de Gaulle, who also survived an assassination attempt, supported Algeria independence.
5 Robert F Kennedy was prosecuting aggressively Italian and Jewish mobsters. Many of the Jewish mobsters played a direct role in providing Israel with weapons prior to and after Israel’s establishment as a country in 1948. Jack Ruby, aka Jacob Rubenstein, was involved with the Italian mafia.
This does not prove that Israel or some of its agents helped kill Kennedy, but there is circumstantial evidence warranting further investigation. This would not be the first time that Israel attacked the United States. Just ask the survivors of the USS Liberty. However, this provides one reasonable explanation for why the CIA wants to keep the files locked away.
Keeping the files secret no longer makes sense. President Trump is now on the record, vowing to release the files. Let’s see if he keeps his promise.
Here is Ryan’s video:
LINK
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:08 pm to Mr Roboto
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LBJ did it so that they could usher in the welfare state and destroy america.
LBJ did it for 3 reasons, HATRED OF THE KENNEDYS, MONEY & POWER. Kennedy’s ideas and departments blocked MANY deals LBJ wanted passed….. thoroughly despised them secretly
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:10 pm to Proximo
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Wait until January 20th
He’ll wait until EVERYONE that has ties to this (and there were dozens, if not hundreds) are dead. Which won’t be too long from now.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:12 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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I once read a book written by a former detective who purportedly interviewed a Detroit hit man who said he did the job. He said he was in the building across the street from the Depository.
Through many readings, it appears that there were at least 4, possibly 5, gun teams/ nests in a block area of DP
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