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re: The National Anthem...Why is everyone offended by the kneeling/sitting?

Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:21 pm to
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Therein lies the answer...just stop playing it at sporting events outside the Olympics.

That seems like total capitulation to me. Not a compromise.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:21 pm to
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Oh, so you think that removing the anthem will take the politics out of it?

Yes...after awhile it will just be normal to not have the national anthem. No opportunity for SJW protest and the game can just get started.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31225 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:22 pm to
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What I love is that it's the FRICKIN LAW to stand and put your hand over your heart for the anthem.

Is that ever enforced? No. But it's the law.

Wouldn't that be some shite if the US actually put people in jail for not saluting the flag? People always talk about it being "free speech", but is it free speech if you're breaking the law?


Yes, and no, at least the way you understand it. I am assuming you are referring to Title 36 US Code. This like Title 4 US Code (the "Flag Code") is whats called advisory code and is not part of the criminal statutes. Title 36 like Title 4 is simply meant to provide a standard by which the flag and other national observances and ceremonies are to be conducted. There are no civil or criminal penalties associated with these code sections so one can legally raise the middle finger during the anthem or dip the flag when Kim K. walks by if the feel like it without suffering the slings and arrows of the judicial system.

I have never practiced in LA so it is possible there is a state or municipality law but no federal one nor one in the states I am licensed in and I am too lazy to do a Westlaw search to verify.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:24 pm to
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That seems like total capitulation to me. Not a compromise.

Not really...capitulation would be some sort of reparations or something I mean these people don't want an answer they just want to complain.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:31 pm to
Most people aren't offended. They're just annoyed as frick. I for one am done with the NFL. The product is completely subpar and the politics makes the decent parts unwatchable.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60308 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:32 pm to
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The National Anthem...Why is everyone offended by the kneeling/sitting?


Not offended, just annoyed.

1. Because it's the wrong forum.

2. Because it's perpetuating a false narrative.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 6:33 pm
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8800 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:35 pm to
Why is everyone offended?

Ask those who have served in the Military.
Why is the National Anthem played before events?
To honor those who have served/protected this country so SOB's have the luxury of freedom of speech.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:37 pm to
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Not really...capitulation would be some sort of reparations or something I mean these people don't want an answer they just want to complain.

So we have to give up hearing the National Anthem, something the vast majority of us love, and they have to give up, what, acting like an arse?
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:40 pm to
You don't give up hearing it...we hear it all the time. It just really doesn't have to be played at every single sporting event. Why does it?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:43 pm to
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Why does it?

Because most people want it. Why have sporting events at all? Because people want it. You want us to give it up because a handful of idiots don't. I don't agree.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:46 pm to
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Because most people want it. Why have sporting events at all? Because people want it. You want us to give it up because a handful of idiots don't. I don't agree.

I don't like the kneeling either I find it annoying and out of place and unnecessary but nothing is going to stop them from doing it until they just get bored of it. Meanwhile people will tune out and find something else to watch.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10399 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:47 pm to
Mostly it is the disrespect to the men who died defending our freedom.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:48 pm to
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I don't like the kneeling either I find it annoying and out of place and unnecessary but nothing is going to stop them from doing it until they just get bored of it. Meanwhile people will tune out and find something else to watch.

And that's fine with me if the alternative is shitcanning the Anthem.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33424 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:53 pm to
The NFL should just not play it at all since the song and flag are so offensive to them according to their shithead commish
Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
1842 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 6:57 pm to
Ask Pat Tillman what he thinks



Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50055 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:10 pm to
Because it's is disrespectful.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7910 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:12 pm to
Are you living in a cave??? A Commie??? A moron??? Never served or experienced combat???

You are another clueless Kid
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14069 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:14 pm to
Trump triggered the living frick out of the progcucks today.

I wish a team's owner/coaches would stand up and have serious shownconsequences for kneeling or standing during the anthem, as it is a literal distraction from the team.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56236 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 8:07 pm to
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All of the former and active military people I know have absolutely no issue with any of these guys peacefully protesting for equality.


So that settles it?

Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1799 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 8:10 pm to
Oh look.. another anthem thread.

I am so tired about people pretending to give a frick about the anthem and what people do during it.

As long as these fricking bonehead neanderthals run fast, catch the ball, and cause irreversible brain damage to each other, who gives a frick? Their job is to entertain me, not to stand with the hands over their hearts.
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