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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:28 am to wareaglepete
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It was brought to the new world long before Columbus to The Seven Cities of Gold.
I happen to agree.
Major cities can be seen pinpointed by name on SA maps as early as the 1500s.
How did the Spanish Conquistadors just happen to cruise to and plunder the very Inca and Aztec centers and empires (Mexico and Peru) that were said to be a source of so much gold and wealth? Were their "cities" two of those "Seven Cities of Gold" in South America?
It is historically acknowledged that seeking and looting "GOLD" in the New World was the primary mission of the Conquistadors like Pizarro and Cortez. (Was a map given to them by Vatican "insiders" that revealed the locations of stashed gold?)
Good article:
The Gold of the Conquistadors
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:35 am to EphesianArmor
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It is historically acknowledged that seeking and looting "GOLD" in the New World was the primary mission of the Conquistadors like Pizarro and Cortez. (Was a map given to them by Vatican "insiders" that revealed the locations of stashed gold?)
Didn't know if anyone else would even know of these fringe theories that I read about.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:35 am to EphesianArmor
Alternative explanation: They are also gold mines in the Americas.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:36 am to Philzilla2k
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There is no reference to “King Solomon’s Mines” found in the Bible, and King Solomon is only found in the Bible.
Well yeah -- King Solomon and account of his estimated $60T in gold and riches is found "only" the Bible.
Yes, I realize there are no references to "Solomon's Mines" found in the Bible; the OP is a discussion of pure speculation and theory about the whereabouts of the missing $60T of gold gone missing, hidden and stashed.
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"King Solomon's Mines" is a product of fiction by H. Rider Haggard's 1885 adventure novel of the same name.
Ok, so somebody wrote a fictional story about them -- but there were indeed gold mines that produced virtual mountains of gold for Solomon. The Bible text specifies "Ophir" as the source.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:40 am to wareaglepete
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Didn't know if anyone else would even know of these fringe theories that I read about.
Lotta them are plausible. maybe even probable.
Let's ask Chicken to start a "Fringe Theory" nutjob board.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:41 am to EphesianArmor
Chances are it was copper not gold which was just as valuable as good at that time. They also found huge copper mines in the area Solomon was over.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:41 am to Gravitiger
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Alternative explanation: They are also gold mines in the Americas.
True.
But the OP was focused on Solomon's supplier (Hiram the Phoenician who sailed to "Ophir" (where ever that was / is).
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:44 am to SOSFAN
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copper not gold which was just as valuable as good at that time.
Maybe for some instances, usage and functions.
According to historians and Biblical text, gold is THE standard of "wealth".
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:48 am to Mo Jeaux
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The simplest answer is that it never existed. Solomon, if he existed at all, was nothing more than a minor tribal leader of a small city-state-like polity.
Brutha, if you're going to dismiss the Bible text (and King Solomon) as fiction, nothing in this thread is going to make sense to you.
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Do you have any logical explanations as to why several sailing expeditions and explorers suddenly embarked on wild goose-chases all over the world during the same time-time of the 1400s-1800s?
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You haven’t really studied the age of exploration, have you?
I have actually.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:50 am to EphesianArmor
quote:Right, but I was responding to why the explorers might have sought/found gold there.
True.
But the OP was focused on Solomon's supplier (Hiram the Phoenician who sailed to "Ophir" (where ever that was / is).
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:56 am to EphesianArmor
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if you're going to dismiss the Bible text (and King Solomon) as fiction, nothing in this thread is going to make sense to you.
Ok.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:14 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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You could interpret that as saying it’s good to be deceitful as long as you get away with it. Seems like the wrong message to portray
He didn't get away with it. Jacob went into exile for doing this.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:00 pm to EphesianArmor
The one that is cursed.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:23 pm to EphesianArmor
The OT is a storehouse of some of the most gullible people on the internet. It's truly incredible.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:39 pm to EphesianArmor
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By today’s standards, Solomon was reputed to have a personal fortune in excess of $60 trillion. Much of this came in the form of pure gold. By the end of his sovereignty, estimations indicated that he owned 500 tons of gold.
500 tons of gold is worth @ $4040/troy oz = $59 billion.
Where is the remaining 90% coming from?
That article was from 2016 when gold was trading around $1250/oz so his historic worth has increased with the recent run up in gold but it seems they are exaggerating his worth significantly.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:51 pm to Helo
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with the recent run up in gold but it seems they are exaggerating his worth significantly.
They do they for all these ancient super rich guys. Mansa Musa for example gets credited for being the richest man ever and people try to put precise dollar amounts on his “net worth” even though there’s no way they would actually know that. All we know is that all these guys were crazy rich
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