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re: The idea anyone is entitled to a "livable wage" is Ludacris
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:47 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:47 pm to LNCHBOX
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Your delusion is spectacular. Your argument that mom and pop's can never save anyone money is one of the dumbest things I've read here. Apparently I need to explain to you how same day availability can have financial impacts, perhaps I use that product to make money myself so same day availability is a big deal and can mema the difference in getting a job or not. Does your tiny brain possess the ability to consider the time value of something?
It’s an argument that goes both ways. if you’re arguing that M&P is better because they have stuff and Big Box Stores don’t that isn’t true.
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But yea. Go ahead and cling to the seminatics of a million examples.
are you doing anything different?
I said Big Box Stores always have cheaper prices and now you’re going through every possible industry and scenario to prove that wrong.
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:51 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s an argument that goes both ways.
No, you made a claim that was absolute. Merely one example otherwise makes your aim wrong. You are wrong. Own it.
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are you doing anything different?
I absolutely am. I did not make an absolute claim. You did. I blew it up, and now you're trying to.kobe the goal posts
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I said Big Box Stores always have cheaper prices
First off, that's not what you said. Also, it's wrong.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:56 pm to LNCHBOX
You like to have you cake and eat it,
it’s intellectually dishonest.
it’s intellectually dishonest.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:59 pm to SammyTiger
Yea, I'd just give up too. Run along
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:04 pm to LNCHBOX
You circled back to your first dumb argument so just reread my prior posts.
If you want me to admit there are some scenarios were mom and pop shops are cheaper sure you can have that
In general it’s not true and you know that. and in the context of this conversation idk how your AC repairman is relevant when most minimum wage employees aren’t skilled repairmen.
If you want me to admit there are some scenarios were mom and pop shops are cheaper sure you can have that
In general it’s not true and you know that. and in the context of this conversation idk how your AC repairman is relevant when most minimum wage employees aren’t skilled repairmen.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:11 pm to sidewalkside
Move, BITCH, get out the way!
In a serious note. I do think there should be a concept of a liveable wage. Anyone who is working a full-time job , even if minimum wage, should at the least be able to afford a small 1 bedroom apartment in their area. Someone working full time minimum wage should be able to fully support themselves without having to use government assistance.
This would mean there can't be a federal minimum wage, because standard of living varies from state to states, and city to city. Not to mention a bi issue is we can't decide on what is a liveable wage is. Some people think a minimum wage worker should be able to afford a family or 4, and that is totally ridiculous.
In a serious note. I do think there should be a concept of a liveable wage. Anyone who is working a full-time job , even if minimum wage, should at the least be able to afford a small 1 bedroom apartment in their area. Someone working full time minimum wage should be able to fully support themselves without having to use government assistance.
This would mean there can't be a federal minimum wage, because standard of living varies from state to states, and city to city. Not to mention a bi issue is we can't decide on what is a liveable wage is. Some people think a minimum wage worker should be able to afford a family or 4, and that is totally ridiculous.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:14 pm to QJenk
quote:the free market has ,, well had a way
This would mean there can't be a federal minimum wage, because standard of living varies from state to states, and city to city. Not to mention a bi issue is we can't decide on what is a liveable wage is. Some people think a minimum wage worker should be able to afford a family or 4, and that is totally ridiculous
the free market is long gone in the U.S. now
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:14 pm to SammyTiger
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You circled back to your first dumb argument so just reread my prior posts.
My first dumb argument where I proved you wrong since you made an absolute claim? So dumb of me
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If you want me to admit there are some scenarios were mom and pop shops are cheaper sure you can have that
I'd rather you type the words "lnchbox, I was wrong"
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In general it’s not true and you know that
Cool, never said otherwise. Keep trying to shift the goal posts.
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and in the context of this conversation idk how your AC repairman is relevant when most minimum wage employees aren’t skilled repairmen
It is relevant because it's a mom and pop that saves me money and time. It's one of many examples that make you look stupid.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:18 pm to LNCHBOX
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My first dumb argument where I proved you wrong since you made an absolute claim? So dumb of me
ok sure like i said its not absolute it’s just generally true.
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I'd rather you type the words "lnchbox, I was wrong"
as soon as you type “I cant actually name a million examples, Sammy Sir”
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Cool, never said otherwise. Keep trying to shift the goal posts.
Ok cool. So my original point stands and you were making some
dumb semantic arguement to argue without saying anything.
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It is relevant because it's a mom and pop that saves me money and time. It's one of many examples that make you look stupid.
i said money you said “time and money”
so who’s is moving goalposts?
and again, ok sure, and????
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:19 pm to Corinthians420
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Cali going from $16 to $20 registers a big nothing on my list of things to give a frick about over here in Louisiana.
Yet here you are...
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:23 pm to SammyTiger
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ok sure like i said its not absolute it’s just generally true
Well that's not what you said. Try gaslighting someone else.
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as soon as you type “I cant actually name a million examples, Sammy Sir”
fricking clown
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:25 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
The "livable wage" 5 years ago, is illivable today.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:30 pm to tarzana
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The "livable wage" 5 years ago, is illivable today.
Maybe some of these folks should stop making such shtty decisions that prevent themselves from climbing their way out of poverty.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:32 pm to LNCHBOX
you’re right I said:
which was an absolute
and you said that’s not true and I said
So is it not true for the vast majority of consumer goods?
I was willing to admit it’s not 100%, just mostly and you kept arguing with me.
to what end?
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Mom and Pop Businesses don’t save people money in any way.
which was an absolute
and you said that’s not true and I said
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For the vast majority of consumer good it’s true, Because I can drive to Walmart/Home Depot etc locally and buy most thing immediately.
So is it not true for the vast majority of consumer goods?
I was willing to admit it’s not 100%, just mostly and you kept arguing with me.
to what end?
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Most people who are unhappy are the ones who aren’t doing shite to improve their position and just sit around and think up shite because they aren’t being useful.
They blame everyone besides themselves, much like an addict.
We will always have these folks. What really needs to happen is people need to realize we aren’t all in the same boat and never will be unless you decide to get up and put that work in.
Other than that the separation will continue as the middle class fizzles out.
They blame everyone besides themselves, much like an addict.
We will always have these folks. What really needs to happen is people need to realize we aren’t all in the same boat and never will be unless you decide to get up and put that work in.
Other than that the separation will continue as the middle class fizzles out.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:52 pm to sidewalkside
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Instead I contend it should be the obligation of the individual to either adjust their spending/consumption/ expenses to the wage they are earning or instead...how about learn a new skill...learn a new trade...obtain a higher education and find a job paying a higher wage that fits their lifestyle.
it is easy to sit behind a keyboard and type shite like this. it is not that black and white. if a person has to work 2 jobs to provide for their family, how are they supposed to make the time to learn a new skill? obviously it is not 100% to all cases, but some folks have to work 2 jobs to cover rent for a place to live because rent/mortgages are so frickign high.
and the issue with finding a better paying job is education/certifications, that some are unable to get due to lack of time.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:53 pm to Thracken13
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if a person has to work 2 jobs to provide for their family, how are they supposed to make the time to learn a new skill?
The time to learn skills that’ll support a family, is prior to having one.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:55 pm to sidewalkside
What about inflation? What about the rising cost of housing? What about how the prices of goods and housing have risen so much more than the average salary? I see in general where you are coming from but it’s also a place of ignorance.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:05 pm to Dawgfanman
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The time to learn skills that’ll support a family, is prior to having one.
they can’t all become republican Congresswomen.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:08 pm to jizzle6609
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We will always have these folks. What really needs to happen is people need to realize we aren’t all in the same boat and never will be unless you decide to get up and put that work in.
There's been way too much hand holding and many of these folks never developed faith in themselves.
Even squirrels know enough to store nuts, so that they will have something to eat when food gets scarce. But the welfare state has spawned a whole class of people who spend everything they get when times are good, and look to others to provide for their food and other basic needs when times turn bad.
Thomas Sowell
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