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re: The idea anyone is entitled to a "livable wage" is Ludacris
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:33 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:33 pm to LNCHBOX
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You do what you have to do. They didn't need the government to give their kids better than what they had. I worked two jobs while my wife was in nursing school, and she worked as much as she could. We also had our first child during her first semester. We did what we had to do so she could now have the career she does and we can live the life we do.
so basically you’re saying that despite working 40 hours a week you didn’t deserve a comfortable life for your family.
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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Fast food places are only open Monday through Friday from 7-3, and not during the summer? I learned something new today.
ok so if HS and College student should be doing these job, who is doing them during school
hours?
College student all pitch in their 10
hours a week between classes to make sure McDonalds stays open?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:37 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
ok so if HS and College student should be doing these job, who is doing them during school
hours?
College student all pitch in their 10
hours a week between classes to make sure McDonalds stays open?
Seems like plenty of adult losers staff these jobs already. Great argumenta s usual, counselor.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:37 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
so basically you’re saying that despite working 40 hours a week you didn’t deserve a comfortable life for your family.
Who said any amount of hours worked entitles you to anything more that what you agreed to work for??? If I feel $20 an hour is not what I should be getting paid I find a job somewhere else paying more. plain and simple.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:37 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
so basically you’re saying that despite working 40 hours a week you didn’t deserve a comfortable life for your family.
I don't deserve anything. I go out and earn what I have.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:40 pm to SammyTiger
Well gee in high school the grocery store I worked at had moms whose kids were in school working
For more than min wage
But yeah a 16 yr old with no skills or experience deserves a livable wage.
For more than min wage
But yeah a 16 yr old with no skills or experience deserves a livable wage.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:40 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Seems like plenty of adult losers staff these jobs already. Great argumenta s usual, counselor.
My whole point is that in reality these jobs aren’t for College students and high school kids.
So you just admitted that “plenty of adult losers staff these jobs”
idk if you know this but getting opposing counsel to agree with you is a good outcome for an argument.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:41 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
you didn’t deserve
Oh dear god.
You arent entitled to a better life than the next guy. Its up to you to make that happen
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:41 pm to SammyTiger
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My whole point is that in reality these jobs aren’t for College students and high school kids.
Someone should tell chick fil a.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:42 pm to sidewalkside
I think it’s more…
…juvenile
…juvenile
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:45 pm to Penrod
quote:
You mentioned restaurants. There were no patty making machines; people did that by hand.
You're right- there were unskilled labor jobs, but there wasn't a restaurant (fast food or sit down) on every corner and the building boom was in its infancy.
Maybe I should have said that unskilled labor positions didn't make up such a large portion of the labor force in the advent of minimum wage. The dynamics of the work force has changed so drastically, that entry level positions shouldn't be paid a 'livable wage' as in previous generations.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:47 pm to sidewalkside
I’m not getting into the livable wage discussion.
But it is in the public interest that employers pay their employees well. That is the basics of how society works in America.
Why a bunch of people from Louisiana don’t seem to understand that, then wonder why they live in a shite hole every day on here is a mystery/disheartening
But it is in the public interest that employers pay their employees well. That is the basics of how society works in America.
Why a bunch of people from Louisiana don’t seem to understand that, then wonder why they live in a shite hole every day on here is a mystery/disheartening
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:50 pm to athenslife101
quote:
But it is in the public interest that employers pay their employees well
End welfare, illegal immigration and wages rise.
The government is keeping wages low through welfare and immigration, and deflating the dollar with deficit spending.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:50 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Someone should tell chick fil a.
pays more than minimum wage.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:55 pm to sidewalkside
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Who said anyone of us is "guaranteed" anything?
I was responding to your comment that people who want a livable wage should get an education.
Which now your new comment brings up another point. We're told to get an education to make a decent living, so we do, yet we still can't make a decent living. Ok, now the goal posts are moved again...take personal responsibility and work harder, so we do....then when that isn't enough, it's something else.
It's an endless cycle of work harder and enjoy your life less that is only getting worse year after year. At some point the gap between pay and CoL can't be bridged by just telling people to work harder. At some point there is a balance to be struck.
The amount of effort and hard work today doesn't yield what it did 40, 30, 20 or even 10 years ago. We are getting less bang for our buck (and for our hours worked) mostly due to pay and CoL not rising proportionately.
How do you solve that? I don't know, but just giving a vague "work harder" isn't the solution. People are already doing that and it's providing minimal returns comparative to decades ago.
*For the record, I'm not even really including min wage workers in my conversation points. Just pay / CoL in general.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:55 pm to sidewalkside
quote:
sidewalkside
What do you do for a living?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:55 pm to SammyTiger
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pays more than minimum wage.
Sounds like a place McDonalds workers should aspire to.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
My company, a private business, believes that the Us does t have the talent to do the work required. So it’s cheaper for them to import people. What’s the difference between the government telling private business what to do
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:02 pm to sidewalkside
quote:Every person deserves to be paid whatever the market demands they be paid for a given job. Nothing more, nothing less.
Why do people think a private business must offer a "livable wage" to anyone? Why is it the obligation of the business to pay a "livable wage" to anyone?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:02 pm to SammyTiger
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pays more than minimum wage.
So does McDonalds. Ooops
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